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  • The Culture of Lying

    The culture of lying is epidemic in Washington, D.C. and the rest of the Country. How did this get started? Was it Richard Nixon ? The crooked main stream media ? Government lies to the Citizens ? Poor upbringing of the last few generatiions ?

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    Back father than Richard Nixon , the JFK assassination was a complete government lie to the people with the Warren Commission, lies about Vietnam , the Robert Kennedy assassination was a lie as well. Johnson was a professional liar before that Joe McCarthy . The FBI and CIA is much of the cause since the 50’s .

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      You left out the biggest liar of all time.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Pmacc60 View Post
        Back father than Richard Nixon , the JFK assassination was a complete government lie to the people with the Warren Commission, lies about Vietnam , the Robert Kennedy assassination was a lie as well. Johnson was a professional liar before that Joe McCarthy . The FBI and CIA is much of the cause since the 50’s .
        Uhhmmm.....I think it goes back even farther!

        As we all have our personal demons and little "dark secrets", I'm pretty confident that "EVERY" president has had some little "misdirection" he or his staff has spun in the interest of "keep everybody calm".
        Then there were those who just blatantly fabricated lies to coverup their screwups, mistakes, outright dastardly deeds and lines crossed.

        Backing up to about FDR. He did some things on the sly that turned the US towards socialism and it's been downhill ever since.
        LBJ, since his days in the Texas House was a force to be reckoned with in backroom politics. That he would drag those tactics into national politics isn't surprising.
        Some say that "Old Guard" LBJ was a bit miffed at being second seat to young JFK and his fingers were in the assasination plot.
        I still believe Nixon was setup by the (d)'s.
        Cah-Tah was a puppet just like Biden is now.
        Of course, we ALL know how "Slick Willie" came up with his nickname. A devious and cunning s.o.b..
        Obama was just as devious and cunning....and stupid.
        Obama would tell a lie when the truth would serve him better....then stand there with his poop munching grin.
        Biden IS NOT the president. He's simply a place holder.
        Biden reminds me of the elderly couple.
        He can drive, but he's blind as a bat. His wife is deaf as a door knob, but can see just fine.
        He drives, she shouts instructions.
        Biden is sitting blindly behind the steering wheel.
        ...but whoever is shouting instructions isn't doing very well either as Biden crosses into oncoming traffic, drops off the shoulder, speeds through school zones, drives 25mph on the interstate, runs red lights and stops for green lights, the whole time careening like a bumper car from obstacle to obstacle.

        If Biden doesn't go down in history as the "last president of the US", he will most certainly go down as the worst.

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        • #5
          Let's give credit where credit is due.
          FDR gave us Social Security and LBJ gave us Medicare.
          Thank God for both.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 99explorer View Post
            Let's give credit where credit is due.
            FDR gave us Social Security and LBJ gave us Medicare.
            Thank God for both.
            Gave us my butt crack! Took our independence and forced our unwilling compliance with a BIG BROTHER solution, one size fits all. Snowhole you are a guy who licks the boot on your face. Not having to be responsible for your decisions is your favorite decision. I'm glad you're happy with your new chocolate allowance.

            Let's GO Brandon!!!!

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            • #7
              I'd say it goes all the way back to the beginning. There are just a lot more ways to hear the lies nowadays.

              Westward expansion, gold rushes, oil discoveries, railroad building ... all that stuff goes way back, all of it had a stewpot of proponents and opponents, and all of it involved government decisions.

              That said, I'd guess that lies in earlier times were less prevalent and often less impactful. Far fewer influences on those who governed. Now we've got all the "Big -------" interests working on politicians, and media that's become mega big business itself, as well as an arrogant and misguided perception of itself that wasn't there for many decades.
              Last edited by MattM37; 08-15-2022, 02:48 PM.

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              • #8
                I think a big turning point was when it became ok to lie. To lie obviously. No repercussions.

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                • #9
                  I think early advertising had a lot to do with it.

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                  • #10
                    Talk about a non sequitur !

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                    • #11
                      How about this?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rock rat View Post
                        I think a big turning point was when it became ok to lie. To lie obviously. No repercussions.
                        I agree and worse to talk stupid and have no repercussion . The more uneducated and ridiculous statement , the bigger press !

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MattM37 View Post
                          I'd say it goes all the way back to the beginning. There are just a lot more ways to hear the lies nowadays.

                          Westward expansion, gold rushes, oil discoveries, railroad building ... all that stuff goes way back, all of it had a stewpot of proponents and opponents, and all of it involved government decisions.

                          That said, I'd guess that lies in earlier times were less prevalent and often less impactful. Far fewer influences on those who governed. Now we've got all the "Big -------" interests working on politicians, and media that's become mega big business itself, as well as an arrogant and misguided perception of itself that wasn't there for many decades.
                          A. Lincoln signed the "Pacific Railway Act" in 1862.
                          He wasn't able to actually fund the railroads, so he gave them land to sell to generate funding. That's where the cursed "checkerboard" came about in our western states that causes "corner crossers" so many problems these days.
                          Speculaters bought townships, built their own towns, hoping to attract railroads into coming through their community.
                          With steam locomotives, water was a big concern.
                          Ever notice how so many "Hole-in-the-Wall" towns there USED to be about ever 10 miles scattered across the west?
                          That's about the range of the water tank of a steam locomotive.
                          Diesel locomotives rang the death knell for towns like Lovelady, Texas and Addington, Oklahoma.

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                          • #14
                            And the Act of 1863 set the gauge to be used by the railroads at four feet and eight and one-half inches, a gauge that had previously been used by George Stephenson in England for the Liverpool and Manchester Railway (1830) and was already popular with railroads in the Northeastern states. Due in part to the 1863 Act the gauge would come to be widely (but not universally) adopted in the United States and is known as standard gauge. A common gauge choice allowed easy transfer of cars between different railroad companies and facilitates trackage rights between companies.

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                            • #15
                              Talk about liars!
                              FBI and LSM caught with their "hand in the cookie jar"!
                              Deny it, admit it, then, change the narrative!

                              https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/08...ceipts-n612840

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