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  • labrador12
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    Originally posted by 99explorer View Post
    Posted by labrador:

    The Supreme Court can declare a existing law Unconstitutional. Declaring a law Unconstitutional doesn't automatically create a law replacing the Unconstitutional Statute.

    You seem to be under the impression that a LAW can only prohibit things, but cannot PERMIT anything.
    The Supreme Court made new LAW when it permitted states to criminalize abortion.
    Same with the repeal of Prohibition.
    The court can halt the existence of a previously existing law. That causes a change in law. The court hasn't created a new law. Abortion is now able to be regulated by the states. The Constitution recognizes the human right to self defense and to keep and bear arms. The impediments to bearing arms that NY erecteced were deemed to be excessive to the citizens right. The citizen is not to be shackled in his rights by State Authority. That is the essence of American uniqueness. The individual citizen allows the government's existence, not vice versa.


    Let's GO Brandon!!!

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  • Pmacc60
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    Originally posted by 99explorer View Post
    Posted by labrador:

    The Supreme Court can declare a existing law Unconstitutional. Declaring a law Unconstitutional doesn't automatically create a law replacing the Unconstitutional Statute.

    You seem to be under the impression that a LAW can only prohibit things, but cannot PERMIT anything.
    The Supreme Court made new LAW when it permitted states to criminalize abortion.
    Same with the repeal of Prohibition.
    I think your forgetting who brought all this on 99, when a State like New York or New Jersey that pushed abortion well past Roe V Wade . Full term and third trimester abortions were going to push the average American past their ability to ignore what is going on ! There are many people with ideas on what is right or wrong that don’t live on the east and west coast, they reside in their states and vote ! There are zealots on both sides and both have completely opposite feelings about abortion ! Most of us are in the middle and the same tactics liberals use to cry about the horror of a mass shooting is a tactic well learned by the pro life groups. With over 900,000 babies being aborted last year some in third trimester then the pro choice side really left it to the courts , didn’t they ! People can only be pushed so far and even with the press championing the pro choice side ….. this dog won’t hunt nor stand up in the highest court in the land !

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  • 99explorer
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    Posted by labrador:

    The Supreme Court can declare a existing law Unconstitutional. Declaring a law Unconstitutional doesn't automatically create a law replacing the Unconstitutional Statute.

    You seem to be under the impression that a LAW can only prohibit things, but cannot PERMIT anything.
    The Supreme Court made new LAW when it permitted states to criminalize abortion.
    Same with the repeal of Prohibition.
    Last edited by 99explorer; 06-26-2022, 01:36 PM.

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  • 99explorer
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    Nor do they mention the right to own a cow.

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by labrador12 View Post

    A new law is made when both Houses of Congress pass a Bill and the President signs it. Courts do not have the power to make laws. The Supreme Court does not have the power to create new laws. The Supreme Court can declare a existing law Unconstitutional. Declaring a law Unconstitutional doesn't automatically create a law replacing the Unconstitutional Statute.

    Let's GO Brandon!!!!
    If I'm not mistaken...and I have been on occasion...
    ...the Senate proposes new laws and it has to be ok'd by the House of Representatives.
    The House of Representatives proposes budgets that have to be ok'd by the Senate.
    That supposedly helps keep both sides in check, or a "check and balance" type affair.

    Once a law/budget has been approved by both House and Senate, only then does it go to POTUS to be signed or vetoed.


    ....and "YES!", "Roe v. Wade" was unconstitutional in that nowhere in the Constitution OR Bill of Rights does it mention the "right" to an abortion.

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  • labrador12
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    Originally posted by 99explorer View Post
    When the president signs a bill enacted by the legislature, it becomes a LAW.
    When the Supreme Court reviews it many years later and finds that it lacks constitutional support, the court may amend it, thereby making a NEW LAW.
    A new law is made when both Houses of Congress pass a Bill and the President signs it. Courts do not have the power to make laws. The Supreme Court does not have the power to create new laws. The Supreme Court can declare a existing law Unconstitutional. Declaring a law Unconstitutional doesn't automatically create a law replacing the Unconstitutional Statute.

    Let's GO Brandon!!!!

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  • 99explorer
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    When the president signs a bill enacted by the legislature, it becomes a LAW.
    When the Supreme Court reviews it many years later and finds that it lacks constitutional support, the court may amend it, thereby making a NEW LAW.

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  • FirstBubba
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    Roe v. Wade WAS considered the (ahem!) "law of the land".
    Well, Roe v. Wade has now been overturned and is NO LONGER the (ahem!) "law of the land".
    The "Dobbs Decision" is now the (ahem!) "law of the land".

    The Dobbs Decision DID NOT abolish abortion, it simply turned the decision to allow or not allow abortion back to the state, where, Constitutionally, it always should have been.

    For those who prefer, it is the "Dobbs v. Jackson" decision.
    Last edited by FirstBubba; 06-26-2022, 09:28 AM.

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  • jhjimbo
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    Why are women so adamant about abortions when there are other means, like pills?
    Does anybody know?

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  • jhjimbo
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    Don't capitalize law, because it was never based on solid legal ground. Justices said that 50 years ago but the Court looked the other way. Maybe a regulation is a better description.

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  • Pmacc60
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    Originally posted by 99explorer View Post

    Until it was reversed, Roe v. Wade was the LAW on abortion rights.
    It was the precedent that had to be respected by every other court in the land.
    Trouble here 99 is that it isn’t protected by the constitution with this courts decision ! However I feel about it or you for that matter , abortion isn’t a constitutional right ! It doesn’t mean it can’t be amended into the constitution and all the ruling means is it’s kicked back to the states . Look I don’t see your point here , you don’t care about the Constitution so why now ! You keep saying it was law for 50 years but 2A has been a right for nearly 250 years ! You can’t have it both ways when you cheapen one argument by telling us you have hearing loss over some persons shooting but that’s a small incident compared to millions who are very responsible . However you love to point out that Roe v Wade is law for 50 years but it has been used irresponsibly many more times than used for legit reasons . I don’t think that abortion was to be used for birth control when it became legal . 99 I feel your opinions are very shallow and without conviction !

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  • labrador12
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    The Penumbra to rule them all, eh Snowhole! The Constitution spoke to that earlier Court and told them that contrary to all thought and morality, murder of Innocents was to be allowed and celebrated as a great freedom of expression. The shadow knows!

    Let's GO Brandon!!!!!

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  • 99explorer
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    Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post
    No matter how you say it, "rule of law" can't be established by "precedent"!
    Roe v. Wade was NEVER a law nor an established Constitutional "right".
    Just a "precedent"! "Joe Bob ate a donut! That means I can eat one also!"

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ional_law.html
    Until it was reversed, Roe v. Wade was the LAW on abortion rights.
    It was the precedent that had to be respected by every other court in the land.
    Last edited by 99explorer; 06-25-2022, 09:16 AM.

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  • FirstBubba
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    Here's one for AG Garland!

    Patagonia (think high dollar outdoor clothing!) is offering to pay bail for any employee arrested for violence while protesting today's SCOTUS decision!
    Don't tell me that isn't inciting violence AND rioting!

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breakin...rate-violence/

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  • FirstBubba
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    "Peaceful Protests"?
    Yeah! Another "Summer of Love"!
    Guess who showed up?

    ANTIFA!!!!

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breakin...-f-you-scotus/

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