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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by fitch270 View Post

    Yep, and agreed but no plans to go anywhere. Still glad to see some sanity prevail regardless.
    I can definitely understand the "heir" side of things. The deed to the land we occupy was awarded in the last Oklahoma land rush* in 1904.
    It was settled by my wife's great grandfather.

    * - it really wasn't a "rush" like the first one. They just opened up the land for settlement.

    Edit:
    Red clay that won't soak up water, is harder than concrete. Droughty
    No water
    Hot in summer
    Cold in winter
    non existant water table (i.e. no well)
    There is a well. It produces a whopping 80* gallons a day! 😜
    Using that on the garden saves on the water bill ... and it's stinky water! LOL!
    Tree species - elm, hackberry, locust and some black jack oak.
    This area is known as "The Cross Plains".
    When settlers came into the "Cross Plains", the black jack oaks and the understory created such an impenetrable thicket, even the Indians wouldn't even venture into it.

    No wonder they gave it away!

    * - the recommendation is 100 gallons per person per day.
    Last edited by FirstBubba; 06-27-2022, 07:51 PM.

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  • 99explorer
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    Many years ago in N.Y. state, if a concealed weapon license holder wished to add another gun to his list, he had to surrender his original license for the additional gun, and hope that it didn't result in its revocation by someone who might think the original license should not have been issued in the first place.

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  • fitch270
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    Originally posted by Milldawg View Post
    Did I read some of these answers correctly. Your guns are listed on your permit. That is a huge invasion of privacy what do with my money is no one else’s business. So thankful I I moved south.
    Yep, and agreed but no plans to go anywhere. Still glad to see some sanity prevail regardless.

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  • fitch270
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    Originally posted by Danbo View Post


    They give you another card with your guns listed on it.


    This decision goes well beyond concealed carry and opens a lot of doors for gun laws to be ruled unconstitutional.

    Safe Act.? The courts used intermediate scrutiny.
    The Thomas court has ruled that unconstitutional.

    Thanks Dan, after reading this it reminded me of a conversation at our club a few years ago between a couple guys talking about the number of cards they each had.


    Hoping dominos start falling but the process could take awhile.

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  • labrador12
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    Originally posted by 99explorer View Post
    I think what our friend Danbo is saying is that because criminals can get whatever weapons they want without any paperwork, law abiding citizens should enjoy the same privilege.
    A non sequitur.
    Law abiding citizens should enjoy vastly more privileges than criminals. In spite of the Democrat urge for equity, citizenship should be rewarded, not penalized. The NY Supreme Court just ruled that Non-citizens can't vote in NY. Only a NY Democrat or other mental defective could believe otherwise.

    Let's GO Brandon!!!!

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by Danbo View Post


    What? How?
    Are they not true?

    Did I hit a nerve ?

    Every thing I said is true. Our criminals have many handguns without permits.

    Everything you said was/is true. The problem IS NOT the honest, day by day gun owner.
    Honest gun owners are the ones that all the asinine gun laws affect, yet libtards are blinded by their own fear, rage and stupidity.
    They couldn't care less about honest gunowners because they stand in the way of the "socialism" they're trying to bring to America.

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  • 99explorer
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    I think what our friend Danbo is saying is that because criminals can get whatever weapons they want without any paperwork, law abiding citizens should enjoy the same privilege.
    A non sequitur.

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  • Danbo
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
    I said a permit could stop someone who should not get one, period. All the other qualifiers you added and really, they sound stupid.

    What? How?
    Are they not true?

    Did I hit a nerve ?

    Every thing I said is true. Our criminals have many handguns without permits.


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  • jhjimbo
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    I said a permit could stop someone who should not get one, period. All the other qualifiers you added and really, they sound stupid.

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  • Danbo
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

    Permits are processed by the Sheriff and much more detailed than a background check.
    The sheriff does it here in NY also but yet the criminals still have any firearms that they wan in NY. Ohio must have no gun violence if you think the permit stops criminals from getting handguns.

    Criminals will always have whatever they want. They don't care about permits.

    Vermont has had constitutional carry forever and yet their per capita crime is low.

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  • Milldawg
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    Did I read some of these answers correctly. Your guns are listed on your permit. That is a huge invasion of privacy what do with my money is no one else’s business. So thankful I I moved south.

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  • 99explorer
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    Permits should not be issued to "Subway" customers;-))

    "Too much mayo on a sandwich’: Subway customer kills employee, shoots woman over order."

    https://news.yahoo.com/too-much-mayo...023354127.html

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  • jhjimbo
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    Originally posted by Danbo View Post

    The permit process doesn't prevent any criminals from NY from getting anything they want.

    Maybe the criminals in OHIO are more law abiding and try to go through the permit process🙃
    Permits are processed by the Sheriff and much more detailed than a background check.

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  • FirstBubba
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    Back in the early 70's, I had a '54 Chevy pickup.
    Guy came by one day and wanted to buy it.
    He had cash,!
    I like cash!
    He got my pickup and a title.
    I got his cash.
    FIVE YEARS LATER------!!!
    I get a call from my mom. She got a visit from a county deputy.
    Seems they found the pickup, 300 miles away and it was STILL registered in my name!!!

    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!

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  • Pmacc60
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    Originally posted by Danbo View Post

    The permit process doesn't prevent any criminals from NY from getting anything they want.

    Maybe the criminals in OHIO are more law abiding and try to go through the permit process🙃
    The exact point Danbo , why is it so hard to see ?

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