Alec Baldwin

[fitch270]

More info coming out. Apparently there have been other issues happening, including other discharges.

Appears they weren’t actually filming at the time.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...walked-off-set

[99explorer]

The latest word is that the gun was loaded with live ammo, but mistakenly treated as a "cold gun" when handed to Baldwin.
He was performing at the time , and was supposed to aim and shoot at the camera to get the audience view of the shooting.
Of course, even so, Baldwin should have checked the gun before the scene.
Probably a single action revolver, as the movie was a western.

https://news.yahoo.com/sheriff-baldw...100904090.html

[fitch270]

Haven’t seen anything from official sources yet but reports are it was a live round.

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/a...nd-1235095349/

[labrador12]

I wonder if the arrogant Mr Baldwin realizes that he has proved that there are literally tens of millions of Americans better able to handle firearms than he is.

Let's GO Brandon!!!

[dewman]

Since it appears the gun was real then maybe the ten rules of firearm safety we all learned as children in hunter ed should be mandatory for anyone handling a firearm on set? Baldwin shouldn't be off the hook for this if he pointed a gun at someone and pulled the trigger. The "I didn't know it was loaded" doesn't work for others, wonder if he'll be the exception. Remember all his Trump gags on SNL? Wonder if they'll do some on him now?

[MattM37]

Those who were kids in the 80s might remember the show "Voyagers" about the time travelers. Jon Erik-Hexum, the star of that show, died when he put a prop gun to his head and said something like, "Hey, everyone, watch this!"

[labrador12]

I've seen reports of a live round in the firearm. It penetrated one person and wounded another. We're talking Perry Mason scenario here!

Lets GO Brandon!!

[labrador12]

Did he get a purple heart, a LA JF Kerry?

Let's GO Brandon!!!!

[99explorer]

A buddy of mine was wounded during basic training in the army when a blank wad fired from a rifle hit him on the wrist, from a distance of 10 to 15 feet.
Not serious, but t did draw blood.

[FirstBubba]

A prop guy interviewed said gases and powder could injur from a blank. I think it might be more along the lines of a wad at close range. Also he said the gun and subject were offset so any projectile would go by the subject. Unless Alec was messing around before the scene.

Yes sir, I figure a "Watch this!" moment by a Mr. Bigshot Actor that went terribly awry because he was/is an idiot.

[jhjimbo]

A prop guy interviewed said gases and powder could injur from a blank. I think it might be more along the lines of a wad at close range. Also he said the gun and subject were offset so any projectile would go by the subject. Unless Alec was messing around before the scene.

[labrador12]

I agree, sympathies for the victims. Not a fan of Alec Baldwin.

Lets GO Brandon!!!

[FirstBubba]

Going to be a ton of explaining to do. Not just why the gun was loaded but why was he actually pointing and pulling the trigger at the crew?


Sympathies for the victims.

Couple of things.
For cartridge guns, "blanks" are normally either black powder (for flash and smoke) or a mixture of smokeless and black powder.
The cartridges are (normally?) sealed with a cardboard disc or a wax plug.
For cap and ball guns, it's normally(?) just black powder with some substance to hold the powder in place.

Wax plugs can act just like a bullet.
Even with no projectile, blanks, up close, muzzle blast can be destructive.

A friend of ours used to do "Old West Reenactments"!
He said he had been burned several times by folks who either weren't watching their muzzle or thought they were far enough away.
After Bruce Lee's son was killed, their show lost a lot of "authenticity" because they shot into the air instead of "AT" each other.

"Blank" does not mean "harmless"!

[fitch270]

Going to be a ton of explaining to do. Not just why the gun was loaded but why was he actually pointing and pulling the trigger at the crew?


Sympathies for the victims.

[crm3006]

From Lab12- "Didn't Perry Mason do a show on a murder committed by a so called stunt gun in 1963???"

Yep. Perry Mason got the guy off, and found the real murderer.