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  • Originally posted by Pmacc60 View Post

    This week you bet wrong Jim, your a damn good guy but don’t poo poo real examples of people who are suffering from vaccines taken. These are two healthy people who for NO other reason are not healthy today . I take Covid serious , I take precautions serious , the vaccine is a option for most of us , a god send but it also has serious side effects for many people . Most of all I take people serious and their rights , I don’t attack their intelligence because they have made their own choice. See I kind of feel that all these guys on here got through their lives and made it this far without me and I respect that.
    So, what is the answer ? People who are unvaccinated are in ICU's right now fighting for their life begging for the vaccine.

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    • Originally posted by Pmacc60 View Post

      This week you bet wrong Jim, your a damn good guy but don’t poo poo real examples of people who are suffering from vaccines taken. These are two healthy people who for NO other reason are not healthy today . I take Covid serious , I take precautions serious , the vaccine is a option for most of us , a god send but it also has serious side effects for many people . Most of all I take people serious and their rights , I don’t attack their intelligence because they have made their own choice. See I kind of feel that all these guys on here got through their lives and made it this far without me and I respect that.
      pmacc60, my family have all refused to be injected with the "magical soup". So far, we have all avoided any complications from COVID-19, it's variants or the "Goofy Juice" vaccines.
      One of the kids is in constant contact with unvaccinated and infected foreigners and still refuses the vaccine.
      I fully support your idea of rejecting or accepting the vaccine as a personal choice.

      If I were to become infected and need to be hospitalized, the "Goofy Juice" vaccine is NOT what I'd be begging for. Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquin(sp?) maybe, but not a vaccination. If I'm sick, it's too late for a vaccination.

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      • Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

        So, what is the answer ? People who are unvaccinated are in ICU's right now fighting for their life begging for the vaccine.
        No jimbo, they aren't begging for the "vaccine", they're begging for a cure.

        What about these people jimbo?
        What about those who had COVID and now have natural immunity?
        Why should they get "the jab"?
        If your doctor told you, "DO NOT get the vaccination"!, would you get it anyway?

        https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...686653440.html

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        • Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
          Dr Gotlieb said today on MSNBC

          "unvaccinated people will probably get the Delta Covid variant and it will be the worst infection they will get in their life".
          I think you're right. We're in the stage where growth is measured in comparison to last weeks, and we're seeing a doubling. I do think there is a top to the curve, a downside on the wave, India has very few infections now, suddenly dropped off. Until then the unvaccinated will pay a stiff price.

          In every scientific experiment there is an effort to have a "control group". A cohort that doesn't get the treatment to see what happens. In this instance the unvaccinated are playing a part in the vaccine experiment, it's just that their part isn't one I'd wish on anyone.

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          • Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post

            No jimbo, they aren't begging for the "vaccine", they're begging for a cure.

            What about these people jimbo?
            What about those who had COVID and now have natural immunity?
            Why should they get "the jab"?
            If your doctor told you, "DO NOT get the vaccination"!, would you get it anyway?

            https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...686653440.html
            That guy is either an idiot or a s**t stirrer. He is excused for medical reasons as are many other people, and my guess is he knows it, and was told so by his doc. A bigger question is why repeat something so obviously BS Bubba?

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            • Originally posted by Pmacc60 View Post
              I am sure but no one jams their opinions down your throat because you have a enlarged prostrate! Most of all no one is trying to shame you into shrinking your prostrate and risking other organs!
              The issue is that his prostrate isn't killing other people, spreading covid is.

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              • An unoccupied upper apartment for the evil Dr. Fauci, rent free!
                Just more "COVID porn" and fear tactics!

                "LIBERAL! Get thee behind me!"

                The "stone rodent" proclaims:

                I think you're right. We're in the stage where growth is measured in comparison to last weeks, and we're seeing a doubling. I do think there is a top to the curve, a downside on the wave, India has very few infections now, suddenly dropped off. Until then the unvaccinated will pay a stiff price.

                In every scientific experiment there is an effort to have a "control group". A cohort that doesn't get the treatment to see what happens. In this instance the unvaccinated are playing a part in the vaccine experiment, it's just that their part isn't one I'd wish on anyone.

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                • Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post

                  No jimbo, they aren't begging for the "vaccine", they're begging for a cure.

                  What about these people jimbo?
                  What about those who had COVID and now have natural immunity?
                  Why should they get "the jab"?
                  If your doctor told you, "DO NOT get the vaccination"!, would you get it anyway?

                  https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...686653440.html
                  I got the J&J and I asked her about a booster now and she said wait another 3 or 4 months and we will see.

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                  • Originally posted by Pmacc60 View Post

                    This week you bet wrong Jim, your a damn good guy but don’t poo poo real examples of people who are suffering from vaccines taken. These are two healthy people who for NO other reason are not healthy today . I take Covid serious , I take precautions serious , the vaccine is a option for most of us , a god send but it also has serious side effects for many people . Most of all I take people serious and their rights , I don’t attack their intelligence because they have made their own choice. See I kind of feel that all these guys on here got through their lives and made it this far without me and I respect that.
                    I don't poo poo examples. There are side effects to almost any vaccination, almost any medication and some even have strong reactions to food. So, what is one to do ? My Sister took a blood thinner that caused a brain bleed. How did She know She would have that reaction ? Xarelto is still on the market.
                    Everyone is the same and everyone is different. Harsh reality. Having worked in the field all I can tell you is the gene developments in the last 20 or so years has improved exponentially.

                    Immune systems are comprised of several specialized cells and organ functions. Who has how many of each type . who knows.
                    I have heard over the years a child protected from all antigens is going to have a hard time in life as their body has not been exposed in low doses to all the things he will be exposed to later. Dust, pets, grass, pollen, food, saprophitic bacteria,, and yes viruses. Why do you think a cold is never caused by the same virus - the person has developed an immunity to that specific virus. The Corvid vaccine is developed against that specific virus, more specifically the virus spike protein, which is just one spot on the virus.
                    Last edited by jhjimbo; 08-06-2021, 10:29 AM.

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                    • PMAC, Do you remember getting the Small Pox needles just unter the skin ? What do you think that was ? Minute amounts of Small Pox virus to stimulate a immune system and show it what to look for in the future - small enough doses you did not get a full blown infection. That methodolgy is archaic compared to the knowledge base we have today. Remember when MIT typed the complete Genome of the Human ? Every cell instruction to make a Human.

                      I was in the field when it was discovered how to concentrate DNA to have enough sample to work with, then how to separate specific parts of the DNA and purify it. This is where we are now. That is how China weaponized the Corona virus to attack Humans and more specifically their lungs. There are thousands of Corona viruses out there but they will not do that unless told to.

                      So. where are all these viruses? As Humans have penetrated the jungles of Borneo and other jungles they have come in contact with animal viruses that Humans have no previous exposure to. Ducks in Viet Nam bring us bird flu every few years. And stuff coming out of Africa is also very significant infections - remember E.Bola. Many others exist. Viruses were there before Humans. I hope this sheds some light on what we are up against. Jim

                      I think kissing and blowing out birthday cake candles will be a thing of great caution going forward.
                      Last edited by jhjimbo; 08-06-2021, 10:48 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

                        I don't poo poo examples. There are side effects to almost any vaccination, almost any medication and some even have strong reactions to food. So, what is one to do ? My Sister took a blood thinner that caused a brain bleed. How did She know She would have that reaction ? Xarelto is still on the market.
                        Everyone is the same and everyone is different. Harsh reality. Having worked in the field all I can tell you is the gene developments in the last 20 or so years has improved exponentially.

                        Immune systems are comprised of several specialized cells and organ functions. Who has how many of each type . who knows.
                        I have heard over the years a child protected from all antigens is going to have a hard time in life as their body has not been exposed in low doses to all the things he will be exposed to later. Dust, pets, grass, pollen, food, saprophitic bacteria,, and yes viruses. Why do you think a cold is never caused by the same virus - the person has developed an immunity to that specific virus. The Corvid vaccine is developed against that specific virus, more specifically the virus spike protein, which is just one spot on the virus.
                        Jim Amiorodone killed my mother snuffing out her ability to breath one day at a time. It gave her pulmonary fibrosis and I watched a woman having energy to a person who spent the last two months of her life intubated . I don’t need a lesson in fucking side effects ! I don’t need to have do gooders tell me what’s right to do because none of us know and the medical field make educated guesses and that’s all they are!
                        Last edited by Pmacc60; 08-06-2021, 01:03 PM.

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                        • Guys get your vaccine if you want it , wear your mask and follow all your precautions. Read and listen to all the information and you are protected . I will not make fun of you . I see it every day , people riding down the road with their mask on and no seat belt . How about the idiot on the scooter wearing a mask and no helmet . My favorite is the people pulling down their mask to smoke their cigarette ! Lol The world turned into a clown show and you all got it ass backwards , if you are not vaccinated then you may be at risk from me being vaccinated and carting the virus to you not the other way round . I’Truth is I’m vaccinated moderne , I can still get and carry Covid , I wore a mask washed my hands and practiced social distancing , I got Covid 19 and was really sick but I still will tell you I will not give of freedom for safety . No one is safe and we all should be concerned with our loss of liberty in this country ! In the words of Jim Corey tough times don’t last , tough guys do !

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                          • Like you, pmacc60, I'm much more concerned with the loss of liberty than of the virus.
                            If the COVID virus doesn't get me, I'm quite certain there are some other viruses standing in line, waiting for their chance to do me in. 👀

                            In nature, viruses "mutate".
                            In nature, each succeeding "mutation" is weaker (i.e. less deadly) than the preceding (parent) strain.

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                            • "Cholesterol drug cuts coronavirus infection by 70%, researchers find."

                              https://news.yahoo.com/cholesterol-d...133526795.html

                              Fenofibrate is the generic form of the
                              name drug Tricor.
                              Last edited by 99explorer; 08-06-2021, 02:31 PM.

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                              • Bubba -
                                If you are more concerned with your loss of liberty than fear of the virus, does that line of thinking also apply to seat belts? Traffic lights? Speed limits? DUI?
                                Your driving liberty is being infringed upon.
                                Last edited by 99explorer; 08-06-2021, 02:38 PM.

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