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    Ithaca, New York: Far-Leftie Paradise, where the young mayor is now pushing to reshape the Police Dept. into something called "The Department of Community Solutions and Public Safety." Wonder what the new badges will look like -- though probably the officers won't even have uniforms anymore. Too, uh, authoritarian. Many of them won't have sidearms, if the mayor has his way.

    I don't mind that the governor called for police departments to evaluate their policies after the Floyd incident -- that was to be expected -- but come on. Over the summer we had bail reform, opening the door for arrested criminals to walk right back out on the street. Things are looking better all the time -- maybe in another couple of years, cops will have to get a legislator (or more likely, a "community solution specialist" to give approval before they make an arrest.

    What's happening with your state / town police departments?

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    They add more and more laws and restrictions to our LEO's while the criminals continue to take advantage of those laws and restrictions.

    Yes. We need LEO reforms.
    We need to start teaching LEO's what a night stick and ASP are for and how to use them.

    Pepper spray and rubber bullets my butt.

    They were having riots in CA. The Fed Gov't sent in "BorTac".
    The CBP's tactical wing.
    One taste of BorTac and when the rioters saw BorTac, they left!

    You can't moly coddle rioters.
    They only respond to stitches, casts and capped front teeth.
    i don't condone violence, but you MUST meet violent rioters WITH force.
    Enough "force" to quell the violence.

    Nat'l Guard 4 - Kent State 0

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    • #3
      George Floyd died of a overdose. He could not say 'I can't breathe', if he could not breathe. They latched onto it for race baiting and the optics.

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        The defund police now need to raise more money to fund police. Defund police had at it's core to shift some resources (code word for money) to the africans.

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          If there are those who think being soft with the criminal element, is the answer to less crime......they are totally insane ! Criminals are not looking form reform, they are looking for the easiest way to put money in their pockets. They hold no sympathy for law and order, and will use any softening of punishment as weakness of the system and take full advantage of it. There is no changing their MO because of stupidity on the part of a soft society !

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
            If there are those who think being soft with the criminal element, is the answer to less crime......they are totally insane ! Criminals are not looking form reform, they are looking for the easiest way to put money in their pockets. They hold no sympathy for law and order, and will use any softening of punishment as weakness of the system and take full advantage of it. There is no changing their MO because of stupidity on the part of a soft society !
            "When feeding time comes, there's nothing a hawk likes better than a nice, peaceful dove."
            - Louis L'Amour

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            • #7
              From #1 Bubba: "Yes. We need LEO reforms.
              We need to start teaching LEO's what a night stick and ASP are for and how to use them."


              My Uncle Jess was the mildest and kindest of men. He loved to fish, gather poke salad, piddle around the country with my Father and Grandfather, and occasionally, shoot a quail. I don't recall ever hearing "Pappy" raise his voice in anger, or even curse, except the mildest hell, or dad blame it.
              Uncle Jess was also a policeman. He retired a Lieutenant from our medium sized city force, and enjoyed a good reputation among his peers in the Baptist church, and on the police force. However, he carried a .38 Special S&W and a lead blackjack on his person all the time he walked that Main Street beat. He walked it until he was 65 years old. Alongside the good reputation he enjoyed, he also had a reputation among the less upright citizens in our town that he was the last man you wanted to either disrespect, or mess with. Sore heads and jail time would be the result. That old leather and lead blackjack in his hip pocket was was not just for show.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by crm3006 View Post
                From #1 Bubba: "Yes. We need LEO reforms.
                We need to start teaching LEO's what a night stick and ASP are for and how to use them."


                My Uncle Jess was the mildest and kindest of men. He loved to fish, gather poke salad, piddle around the country with my Father and Grandfather, and occasionally, shoot a quail. I don't recall ever hearing "Pappy" raise his voice in anger, or even curse, except the mildest hell, or dad blame it.
                Uncle Jess was also a policeman. He retired a Lieutenant from our medium sized city force, and enjoyed a good reputation among his peers in the Baptist church, and on the police force. However, he carried a .38 Special S&W and a lead blackjack on his person all the time he walked that Main Street beat. He walked it until he was 65 years old. Alongside the good reputation he enjoyed, he also had a reputation among the less upright citizens in our town that he was the last man you wanted to either disrespect, or mess with. Sore heads and jail time would be the result. That old leather and lead blackjack in his hip pocket was was not just for show.
                Sure, you're going to have some "bad apple" cops.
                Right now, we've got WAY too many bad apple criminals.
                I don't give two hoots in hell how good your cops are, they will occasionally make a wrong decision. It's human nature.
                Criminals make bad decisions every day, all day, day after day. It's the nature of the beast.

                So, an occasional innocent gets pinched or let bad guys go because of asinine rules?

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                  We have one of these in town, maybe every squad car should be so equipped. Click image for larger version

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                  • #10
                    From #1 Bubba: "Sure, you're going to have some "bad apple" cops.
                    Right now, we've got WAY too many bad apple criminals.
                    I don't give two hoots in hell how good your cops are, they will occasionally make a wrong decision. It's human nature."


                    I did not mean to imply that Uncle Jess was anything like a bad apple. I cannot begin to relate how many stories I have heard about him breaking up a fight, and sending one combatant one way, and one the other, disputes settled on the street, with no one arrested, drunks taken home, instead of arrested, or many, many acts of kindness toward people of all colors and walks of life. Even a few from one time bad boys who got the lecture, or the blackjack and some time in the crossbar hotel, and straightened up their life because of it.
                    He just had his own sense of justice, and sometimes did not see the need for arrest, jail, embarrassment and the humiliation of the newspaper report, and the court system. However, he had a very no nonsense way of dealing with those who flagrantly broke the law, hurt others in the process, or failed to recognize the authority inherent in his badge and position. Main street was his jurisdiction, and all would be peaceful and calm on his watch.
                    More like him, without the "us vs them" attitude of a lot of LEOs today, might go a long way to solving a lot of the street crime problem.

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                    • #11
                      Oh no '06. I was just referring to LEO's in general, not your Uncle Jess.
                      I've known a few cops who were real standup guys.
                      I've also known some who were absolute jerks.
                      RG was Texas DPS. If he ever stopped a female, he WOULD NOT release her until he made her cry. It was a game to him.

                      Steve S. (DPS) was quick to tell you he had a gun, a badge and you COULD NOT argue with him. He WOULD win! Even if he had to change the rules.

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                      • #12
                        Yep. Known a few like that. Two were high school wimps that got the snot beat out of them regularly, from about grade school, on. Don't know how they ever made it onto the OHP. Then, to counter these two, I have know a dozen or more OHP troopers that were just as nice handing out a ticket as they were sharing jokes and coffee at the local coffee shop. The other bad apple, a little older than other two, was universally disliked throughout the troop. Didn't hear a whole lot bad about him, just never heard anything good, either. Knowing a Captain (same USAR unit), and a couple of Lieutenants, and having an OKCPD detective in my small arms sub committee, I caught a lot of inside cop talk.

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                        • #13
                          Funny how that works CRM, some of the best cops I know were pretty wild in their younger days and didn't really grow out of it. The hard cases on the other hand never seemed to get over not being able to hang with the cool kids. Disclaimer: Opinion based on a small sample of guys I'm familiar with.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fitch270 View Post
                            Funny how that works CRM, some of the best cops I know were pretty wild in their younger days and didn't really grow out of it. The hard cases on the other hand never seemed to get over not being able to hang with the cool kids. Disclaimer: Opinion based on a small sample of guys I'm familiar with.
                            Well sir, you're pretty much spot on with your opinion.

                            A.C. weighed about a buck sixty, gun belt and blackjack included.
                            Drove up on a drunk who had gone to sleep at a stop sign. Think "the 'Fridge" in his heyday!
                            A.C. walked up to the open window and smacked the guy just above the left eye with his blackjack.
                            The guy slumped to the right and began rubbing his eye.
                            A.C. leaned in to smack the awakening drunk a second time when a huge black hand grabbed him by his shirt front and drug A.C., kicking and screaming into his car!

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                            • #15
                              California police were filmed shooting man dead for jaywalking.

                              https://news.yahoo.com/california-po...171042986.html

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