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  • What is the Math ??

    When I get a request to donate to a political campaign, many times they say donate now and get 5X matching. Does anyone know where the 5X matching money comes from ?? Also, why match 5X, why not just donate the money direct to the campaign ?? Is it a sham ?

    BTW, I had a phishing incident the other day. A invoice from Springfield Armory for $799.99 sent to Pay Pal. I called and a guy with heavy Indian accent answered. I reported it to PayPal. I asked him where he got his heavy accent from and he said what accent. I hung up.

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    I think the offer to match is a fraud perpetrated on the donor to encourage larger donations in the belief that extra money will be added to the donation from some mysterious source.
    The Trump campaign is notorious for this, promising up to 7X the amount of the donation, and even calculating the total amount of the contribution for various amounts.

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      Obviously you are being conned in both instances. I'm glad you're asking yourself some questions. Perhaps you need to ask yourself some questions about a political party that would resort to fraud. If anyone ever asks them for proof, they will simply juggle contributions others have made to make it look like your contribution was actually matched 5X. That's why they don't tell you who will match your donation. Because they don't know. It's a Ponzi scheme of sorts. Not sure it's illegal ... but certainly unethical. Perhaps the party is on the hook for false advertising. But it would be tough to prove.

      Good to know about the PayPal scam. Not exactly clear what happened. Someone claiming to be from PayPal called? I get the elephant jockeys calling all the time claiming to be from Microsoft. I used to keep them on the line acting dumb and then give them a VISA number made up out of my head. "I'm sorry sir, that number is incorrect. Can you give it to me again?" Sure. And I make up another. And another. And another. Goes on and on ringing up their international phone bill (hopefully!). But then I learned they can record my voice and reengineer it to fool bank staff, etc. Best to hang up immediately. But I usually let them record a loud filthy word or two first.
      Last edited by Ontario Honker Hunter; 08-30-2020, 05:07 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 99explorer View Post
        I think the offer to match is a fraud perpetrated on the donor to encourage larger donations in the belief that extra money will be added to the donation from some mysterious source.
        The Trump campaign is notorious for this, promising up to 7X the amount of the donation, and even calculating the total amount of the contribution for various amounts.
        Going back only 2 months on emails and texts I found 114 request for matched donation request from Joe Biden , Nancy Pelosi , Kamala Harris , Ocasio-Cortez, Schiff etc ! Demarcates are doing it also ! Look I don’t know about you but if I want to be heard I would suggest credibility in what I am saying or writing. You seem to miss this point from what I read from you! Think about it ?

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          Originally posted by Ontario Honker Hunter View Post
          Obviously you are being conned in both instances. I'm glad you're asking yourself some questions. Perhaps you need to ask yourself some questions about a political party that would resort to fraud. If anyone ever asks them for proof, they will simply juggle contributions others have made to make it look like your contribution was actually matched 5X. That's why they don't tell you who will match your donation. Because they don't know. It's a Ponzi scheme of sorts. Not sure it's illegal ... but certainly unethical. Perhaps the party is on the hook for false advertising. But it would be tough to prove.

          Good to know about the PayPal scam. Not exactly clear what happened. Someone claiming to be from PayPal called? I get the elephant jockeys calling all the time claiming to be from Microsoft. I used to keep them on the line acting dumb and then give them a VISA number made up out of my head. "I'm sorry sir, that number is incorrect. Can you give it to me again?" Sure. And I make up another. And another. And another. Goes on and on ringing up their international phone bill (hopefully!). But then I learned they can record my voice and reengineer it to fool bank staff, etc. Best to hang up immediately. But I usually let them record a loud filthy word or two first.
          Honk , parties they are both doing it!

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            You guys sure these outfits aren’t just scammers? Bottom line is don’t give info or money to anyone you don’t know is legit.

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              Originally posted by fitch270 View Post
              You guys sure these outfits aren’t just scammers? Bottom line is don’t give info or money to anyone you don’t know is legit.
              If I felt the need or obligated to send money to a political campaign, it WON'T be via a random email or mass mailer.

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                Originally posted by 99explorer View Post
                I think the offer to match is a fraud perpetrated on the donor to encourage larger donations in the belief that extra money will be added to the donation from some mysterious source.
                The Trump campaign is notorious for this, promising up to 7X the amount of the donation, and even calculating the total amount of the contribution for various amounts.
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                  Originally posted by Pmacc60 View Post
                  Going back only 2 months on emails and texts I found 114 request for matched donation request from Joe Biden , Nancy Pelosi , Kamala Harris , Ocasio-Cortez, Schiff etc ! Demarcates are doing it also ! Look I don’t know about you but if I want to be heard I would suggest credibility in what I am saying or writing. You seem to miss this point from what I read from you! Think about it ?
                  Jimbo didn't specify which party he sent the money to ... and I didn't specify any party either. Scams are scams. I'm not sure I see what point you thought you were reading into what I wrote. But it's not the one you were making it out to be. Read it again. With blinders removed.

                  Edit: Sorry, I see you were directing your response to 99explorer, not me. My mistake.
                  Last edited by Ontario Honker Hunter; 08-30-2020, 12:27 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fitch270 View Post
                    You guys sure these outfits aren’t just scammers? Bottom line is don’t give info or money to anyone you don’t know is legit.
                    After reading your response I'm wondering the same thing. I'm on both Montana Senators' mailing lists (one GOP and one Democrat) and have never received anything like that. I don't get a lot of spam or phishing crap anyway. Actually quite surprising. One thing I avoid is the online quality surveys from Walmart, etc. that offer a chance at big prizes every month. Great way to get on a massive sucker list and showered with junk mail and scammers.

                    However, if these are phishing scams, one would think something would be in the news warning people. Seems to be a lot of it going on. Someone should drop a hint to investigative journalist. Might be a good story.
                    Last edited by Ontario Honker Hunter; 08-30-2020, 12:46 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ontario Honker Hunter View Post

                      Jimbo didn't specify which party he sent the money to ... and I didn't specify any party either. Scams are scams. I'm not sure I see what point you thought you were reading into what I wrote. But it's not the one you were making it out to be. Read it again. With blinders removed.

                      Edit: Sorry, I see you were directing your response to 99explorer, not me. My mistake.
                      Honk , I have blinders removed, for a long time now! Liberals are not the people I grew up admiring, they tried to make the world better ( in my eyes ) to make sure all had the right to the American dream! Yes it’s high minded thought by me but not through rose colored glasses. Today’s liberals are pretenders , socialist hell bent on taking away every freedom! Black lives don’t matter to them anymore than anyone else. Votes , say anything to get them ! Do you think the libs care about police brutality ? I can give you two for-instances of police shootings in my sleepy part of the country in two years! One a trooper spotted a man he knew who had a warrant on him , tried to arrest him and the suspect tried to flee, the trooper was being dragged by the car to which he shot the man killing him. Both white , yes some outrage in the community but no civil unrest, no call from Joe Biden to the suspects family. Local cops shot and killed a man distraught and threatening suicide , he was in his fathers home when the officers ( 3 of them all town cops ) opened fire, killing him also! Outrage yes , violence , looting rioting , no! Joe no where to be found! He did not resist arrest but he did have a gun! He was white so were the cops! Both sides of the parties are at fault and are whores! I will vote this year for the guy who will best protect the constitution ! It’s that simple , politics be damned!

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                      • #12
                        I have not spent my stimulus money so I am donating it to Trump in several hundred dollar donations. I sure hope he wins, for the sake of the Country.

                        I don't know where to put this so I will just mention it here. A guy was at a Gun Show (1st this year) and say about 200 blacks were there that seemed to be together. At this show you usually see 6 or 8 all day. Anyway, they were all buying assault rifles and AK-47's and SKS. Just forwarding something I heard from a reliable observer. He said he felt very uncomfortable. (he was a visitor, not a vendor).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
                          I have not spent my stimulus money so I am donating it to Trump in several hundred dollar donations. I sure hope he wins, for the sake of the Country.

                          I don't know where to put this so I will just mention it here. A guy was at a Gun Show (1st this year) and say about 200 blacks were there that seemed to be together. At this show you usually see 6 or 8 all day. Anyway, they were all buying assault rifles and AK-47's and SKS. Just forwarding something I heard from a reliable observer. He said he felt very uncomfortable. (he was a visitor, not a vendor).
                          Jim legal gun owners should not make you nervous or uncomfortable , they are potential voters for our 2nd amendment rights. They are in fact our brothers and you should rejoice in the fact that we are becoming stronger in numbers. Black gun owners matter!

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                            I have no problem with legal gun ownership. This just looks just too organized. What happens when a group like this clashes with a Militia ? So far the Militia's have been silent, hope it stays that way.

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                              I have no problem with legal gun ownership. This just looks just too organized. What happens when a group like this clashes with a Militia ? So far the Militia's have been silent, hope it stays that way.

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