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  • When will the COVID-19 pandemic end?

    November 4, 2020

  • #2
    Blubber -
    Your words to God's ears.


    • #3
      Until there’s a vaccine. Hate to say it it’s here for the rest of our lives.


      • #4
        The Russians have offered to help us with vaccine development, but we declined because their testing standards are not up to ours.


        • #5
          Originally posted by Solitario Lupo View Post
          Until there’s a vaccine. Hate to say it it’s here for the rest of our lives.
          LOL! You got it "lonewolf"!
          You can inactivate a virus, but you can't "kill" it.
          How long has the common cold virus been around?
          They've been trying to "kill" that sucker since "who flung a chunk"!


          • #6
            The pandemic will end when active cases drop to a low enough point that there is no longer community spread. Virus won't be gone, but the pandemic will be over. How we get there is another matter.

            Look at polio another virus. Only affects 0.5%, and of that half a percent that show symptoms two to five percent of kids and ten or fifteen percent of adults die. Virus exists, pandemic over.


            • #7
              Explaining anything to you, cockroach, is like draining the ocean with a spoon.
              You still believe the Steele dossier was real, that Flynn is guilty, that there is no voter fraud, the (D)'s have no anti gun agenda and various other proven false liberal lies.

              You have proven time and again you prefer to maintain your liberal bias and, 99explorer and old Honk.

              You have no desire to listen to or accept any conservative notion and prefer to promote your liberalism to a site full of dedicated, gun/freedom loving conservative diehards.

              Nobody here, except 99 and Honk, are buying your song and dance.


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                • #9
                  Trump has a new pandemic advisor, less qualified than Dr, Fauci, but he has a better bedside manner.



                  • #10
                    Vaccine or Herd Immunity or some combination therein.

                    Earlier corona-viruses such as those commonly included with the "common cold" such as 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1 are now all with us and circulate and mutate in ways that make them hard if not impossible to eradicate.

                    There's also the possibility that we all get exposed to some other variant of virus that is similar enough to SARS-CoV-2 that our bodies T-Cells respond to SARS-CoV-2 the same way and we a good but not perfect anti-body match that either keeps people from getting sick or as sick. Earlier flu vaccines showed "some" but possibly not enough improvement to be significant in reactions to the SARS-CoV-2. The CDC can't say it will help, but there's a small chance it might, or it might help reduce the symptoms if you get it or other types of influenza (not corona) viruses.

                    My biggest concern is and remains that come November, if Biden is elected, the narrative will turn from Fear, Gloom, and Doom, to Hope and the promise of improvement without him every having done anything. The narrative will change with the situation still being exactly the same.

                    Which is exactly the hallmark of the Mainstream Media lest we forget that President McDroneStrike won the Nobel Peace Prize for not even having done anything.

                    It's clear the narrative we're being fed is agendized from both sides and while the news might never have been completely objective, I'm sick of hearing the myths and drum beating from both.

                    Biggest lies from the Left: Massive infection rates. In all likelihood, the earlier infection rates were always artificially low; and, we now have greater access to testing including testing that has and continues to have a high degree of false results (Type 1 and Type 2 errors)
                    Biggest lies from the Right: It's a myth, it's overblown, it's like the flu. Hydroxychloroquine and other various prophylactics are all you need. Closing in on 175K dead.

                    We're surpassing my expectations of a double extra-bad flu year which would have seen this peter out at around 190K deaths (85K *2) and fall is just around the coroner. Coronaviridae associated with the influenza like illness display seasonal circulation and like other agents such as rhinoviridae and influenza are causes of influenza-like illness.

                    Higher temperatures and direct sunlight are likely effecting the survival of SARs-CoV-2. As a consequence, countries with higher temperature and higher relative humidity might have found it easier to manage the outbreak for this reason (the US is warmer than EU).
                    However, by most accounts and estimations, most of the southern states never even left the first phase or "wave"

                    The talk of a 2nd wave largely comes from the media's instance on comparing Covid-19 to the Spanish flu which is by and large an inaccurate comparison, a much more accurate comparison would be the Hong Kong Flu, which I've discussed ad nauseum previously.

                    I don't know that we'll see a true "second wave" but I pretty much guarantee we'll new phases as the weather turns. That's when people get usually get sick.

                    No single party or affiliation is completely aligned with "science" and claiming so is typically a logical fallacy (again not always, but usually, from the Left) when really what they're doing is "appealing to authority" in the name of Almighty Science, Science be Praised, Glory to Science in the Highest...

                    Quite frankly, when epidemiologists, computer scientists, economists, and biostatisticians can't agree to a unified approach to predicting it seems a bit asinine that a 77yr old with past head trauma exhibiting the signs of cognitive decline and possibly dementia would be able to suddenly magically have the answer or that his mere election to Chief Executive would some how alleviate any road block to scientists supposedly impeded by the current administration to alleviating that burden is a bit ridiculous.

                    Best bet about when this will be over...hmm I'd say it depends on how politicized the media gets. I'd be wiling to bet if Biden wins they'll declare victory and success right after the vaccine begins distribution and will stop reporting on the number of deaths and new cases. If Trump maintains office, every time there's a new phase for the next 2-3 years we'll all still somehow be in the middle of this crisis.

                    Clearly media influence has changed the narrative and politicized the medicine. Some doctors are now asking people their political views if their patients catch a positive test because at least some peer reviewed evidence does show Hydroxychloroquine to be a decent prophylactic.

                    So first define what you mean by Pandemic ending:
                    A) the medical, which occurs when the incidence and death rates plummet, or
                    B) the social, when the epidemic of fear about the disease wanes.

                    Something the media forgets is that people are terrible at adherence, and you already see any number of people (typically leaning Right) that are sick of quarantine, sick of the precautions, want to go out and have a good time. My guess is people in on the Left probably feel the same way but are emotionally invested in the idea that they're somehow opposing tyranny or that doing so is in the best interests of the Collective. Eventually that will wear thin. When it does, the fear will subside completely even knowing full well that there's a potentially lethal virus circulating.

                    Again making a loose guess based on the Hong Kong Flu, medically 2-3yrs after the vaccine begins distribution, but maybe less with modern distribution means and methods. Socially, will depend on whom is President.


                    • #11
                      I think the recovery will vary from state to state.
                      In New York, the curve rose sharply before reaching over 170,000 total cases in April. Since then, new cases have fallen from about 10,000 per day in mid-April to under 600 per day in mid August.
                      And this is without a vaccine.




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