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Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
I don’t think it was off to work, I think you fell off your chair and struck your head in order to come up with that post !! There were several items on D’s ‘gift’ list to us that you failed to cover. And the ones you did take a stab at, all had major holes in reasoning, or lack there of ! If you do not think that one of the important items to the D’s is not gun control, just where have you been living the last several years ? And as far as voting goes, just why would any party be against knowing who is qualified to vote, a citizen in fact, and keep the integrity of the voting process utmost in their thoughts ? I really do not give a hoot about how many people obumy deported, it is now how many, and of what ilk, are going to be entering OUR country as a result of open borders ? And you failed to mention the nice benefits that we will be having from burning and looting of our cities, soft actions against criminals, closing of prisons. All wonderful ideas that I suppose we should be thankful for !
Remember Obama was going to take our guns, didn't happen. Supreme court is stronger, more gun owners, I just can't worry about that one, I wish all the issues were so easy. For gun grabbers it's priority number one. Bloomberg can waste all the money he wants.
The only voting problem is it's too hard, today a vid surfaced of Trump trying to vote probably in the 90s, he hadn't registered, so he wasn't on any list, and there's no same day in NY, so he went provisional, which wouldn't count anyway cause he wasn't registered. Now he votes by mail, just like me. Illegal aliens can hardly read and write let alone care about our elections, there is no fraud. Anyone who thinks illegal aliens are voting is delusional and needs to come back to reality.
Yup, wokeaholics are worse on immigration than Trump, but woke Dems could never do it alone, they have lots of company from players like Cato and the Chamber of Commerce. Restricting illegal immigration has traditionally been a Dem issue up until mid Obama. Remember all those bipartisan "group of eight" and all that? For two years Republicans had both houses and the presidency, no e-verify, no lasting legislation, only executive orders that can be overturned in a day.
Two things? Rule of law, treat Covid like other countries do. Fix the economy like we always do. Fix health care, oops that's 4 and I haven't begun.
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Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post"... I really do not give a hoot about how many people obumy deported, it is now how many, and of what ilk, are going to be entering OUR country as a result of open borders ? ..."
Trump has deported less because he has done more to close the borders to illegal immigrants.
POTUS doesn't "deport" people, CBP does. CBP doesn't ask "if" they can deport a person. They just d er port them.
There is no such thing as an "anchor baby".
"anchor baby" is a precedent set by (D)'s.
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"... I really do not give a hoot about how many people obumy deported, it is now how many, and of what ilk, are going to be entering OUR country as a result of open borders ? ..."
Trump has deported less because he has done more to close the borders to illegal immigrants.
POTUS doesn't "deport" people, CBP does. CBP doesn't ask "if" they can deport a person. They just d er port them.
There is no such thing as an "anchor baby".
"anchor baby" is a precedent set by (D)'s.
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Originally posted by rock rat View Postbowhunter I'd certainly agree that it's the party more than the individual of late, especially Biden who might well be succeeded by his VP.
You also have to understand that Democrats are not all aligned on issues. Just yesterday Biden said that violent protesters (rioters) should be prosecuted and jailed, and most everyone is absolutely silent on defunding police, since when have Ds been into shrinking government agencies with millions of union members? Obama deported more people than Trump, on a yearly basis too. The most extreme in both parties volunteer and run campaigns, they also donate money, many times candidates are silent on issues they'd rater tell people to go fly a kite. Guns are off the table, no legislation of any kind is likely to be even attempted in this kind of climate, notice how gun control groups are silent of late? They do polling but don't publicize it, even Dems want guns for protection now. Voting? You don't really believe that do you? I mean you might as well worry about the Martian invasion. Half the people don't vote. And you failed to mention the benefits to us of standing police down in the riots, the D’s acceptance of burning and looting, or are those just minor incidental
Off to work.Last edited by bowhunter75richard; 07-31-2020, 03:16 PM.
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Originally posted by rock rat View Postbowhunter I'd certainly agree that it's the party more than the individual of late, especially Biden who might well be succeeded by his VP.
You also have to understand that Democrats are not all aligned on issues. Just yesterday Biden said that violent protesters (rioters) should be prosecuted and jailed, and most everyone is absolutely silent on defunding police, since when have Ds been into shrinking government agencies with millions of union members? Obama deported more people than Trump, on a yearly basis too. The most extreme in both parties volunteer and run campaigns, they also donate money, many times candidates are silent on issues they'd rater tell people to go fly a kite. Guns are off the table, no legislation of any kind is likely to be even attempted in this kind of climate, notice how gun control groups are silent of late? They do polling but don't publicize it, even Dems want guns for protection now. Voting? You don't really believe that do you? I mean you might as well worry about the Martian invasion. Half the people don't vote.
Off to work.
I can tell you , he was the senator of the State of Delaware , a nice state to live in ! Economically speaking you can make a nice living , there is culture and things to do . The people like where they live and no sales tax ! They don’t want anything ..... so Joe gets to do favors , that’s his rise through the ranks. Rock Rat I only as one thing tell me Joe Biden’s list of political accomplishments , that’s all I ask. I know what they are it’s all in one paragraph ! So tell me why I should vote my own party , Joe was the best we have???? Trump 2020! RR if you care anything about the 1st and 2nd amendments you have only one choice as well .
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bowhunter I'd certainly agree that it's the party more than the individual of late, especially Biden who might well be succeeded by his VP.
You also have to understand that Democrats are not all aligned on issues. Just yesterday Biden said that violent protesters (rioters) should be prosecuted and jailed, and most everyone is absolutely silent on defunding police, since when have Ds been into shrinking government agencies with millions of union members? Obama deported more people than Trump, on a yearly basis too. The most extreme in both parties volunteer and run campaigns, they also donate money, many times candidates are silent on issues they'd rater tell people to go fly a kite. Guns are off the table, no legislation of any kind is likely to be even attempted in this kind of climate, notice how gun control groups are silent of late? They do polling but don't publicize it, even Dems want guns for protection now. Voting? You don't really believe that do you? I mean you might as well worry about the Martian invasion. Half the people don't vote.
Off to work.
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It is not the man who is best for the country, it is the party that is to be considered, and the agenda of that party ! Do we really want a open borders party, a socialistic party, a party that is soft on criminals with an idiotic justice reform way of thinking ? A party of thinking that police are not needed, or at least defunded and should stand down in the face of riots ? A party that accepts terrorism in the burning of our cities, a party that will certainly give us their idea of gun control ? A party of cultural cancelling, or one which does not care who is voting in our elections ? Why would one party have all these negative ideas for an agenda ? If a person only uses a third of their brain, I don’t see too much trouble in deciding which party not to vote for !!!
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Danbo, I don't post often, but I've been around a long time. Stop with the vulgarity already. The civility on this site has really gone downhill the last few months. I think everyone has too much time on their hands. Regardless of peoples ideology, I think we can all be a little more respectful. They way I see it, there are a fair amount of people on both sides of the spectrum politically who have good ideas. Maybe if we listened to each other a little more carefully instead of immediately going on the attack, we could solve some of our problems.
Ok, rant over. Back to my coffee.
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Obama's economy like you is dung. Trump had a booming economy until The planned Kung flu.
Trump is better on Immigration, Gun rights, The economy, Foreign policy, Religious liberty, Judges,Abortion,Regulation. On the anti Trump pandemic he got all the ventilators anybody needed even though my governor contaminated Nursing homes purposely.
And my number one reason is he drives people like the three stooges nuts.Last edited by Danbo; 07-31-2020, 12:16 PM.
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Originally posted by 99explorer View PostBiden would do less damage to the country as we await the arrival of a good Republican candidate to replace him in 2024.Last edited by Danbo; 07-30-2020, 07:12 PM.
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As in the last 2 elections it's a choice of less bad. Democrats and Biden actually think the government should work. They would prepare for the next pandemic, global warming, or some kind of other terrible disaster.
Although Dems are also bad for working people, they do a much better job with the economy. Obama turned the economy around and we had steady growth the whole time. Now the other team has run the thing into the ground.
Dems are horrid on social issue but much better on issues generally scientific. When a global pandemic hits, it's time for leadership, not playing golf or saying things will get better. Vietnam has had zero deaths from Covid, we are at 150,000. Vietnam. Rember, we were going to bomb them into the stone age?
Currently congress is arguing about how little money to give to people and how much money to give to businesses.
Frankly I doubt Biden will be much better, I doubt we'll see much difference. Our poor will get poorer, Trump camps will grow larger, and Biden will help businesses steal money from the people. At the least though, Putin will no longer call the shots. We won't have a commie in the White House. Kim and Xi will no longer be besties with our President.
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