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  • Trump ask d Biden if he could name 1 law enforcement group who endorses Biden.

    Biden said we don't have time for that and didn't name one.

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    • BH75R- Trump condemned the lawless rioting going on in some cities, reiterated that he could do nothing until asked, stated plainly that left wing mayors and governors refused to ask.
      biden replied that antifa was not an organization, just a movement!
      When Trump asked biden straight out whether or not biden had plans to pack the SCOTUS, biden refused to answer. When then asked who was on his SCOTUS list, biden again obfuscated without providing an answer. It was very contentious, with communist chris wallace doing all he could to aid biden and hinder Trump, who refused to be either put off or intimidated.
      At one point, Trump made reference to the fact by saying to wallace " I guess I'm debating you, too!" Not much gained for either side, I doubt anyone's mind was changed, unless they saw a sitting president being badgered by a contemptuous challenger with no real points except calling the President a clown, and a liar several times. Nor was the moderator really moderating. wallace was very obvious in his prejudice against the President, and it appeared that his agenda was to make it look like FOX was not just an outlet for the President. FOX has tilted to the left considerably lately, as I'm sure you are aware.

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      • My eldest put it this way.

        "Trump was rude. Biden never answered a question."

        I wish Trump would tone it down somewhat. Don Jr was right though. I think Trump is outspoken because the MSM and the left would bludgeon him otherwise.
        Their "schtick" is to talk over opponents to overwhelm them. When Trump overtalks them, they get all po'd!


        Biden held it together better than I thought he would. He did fall into his old "angry outburst" schtick a time or two. (Called Trump a "clown" and told Trump to "shut up".)
        Biden never really "answered" any question. It was all generalities that never addressed any specific subject until the Green New Deal.
        Biden swore the Biden Plan WAS NOT the GND, but still wanted to retrofit 40k buildings across the US, build solar homes and do away with fossil energy by 2050.

        Trump was spot on about the fires out west. Poor forest management.
        All Biden could do was blame it on "global warming". (I thought global warming was passe and climate crisis was the current mantra?)

        In the end, I'd say Trump didn't lose, and Biden didn't win.

        (It really was kinda chaotic! LOL!)

        Here's the "redstate" take on the debate.

        https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/...-first-debate/

        https://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2020/09/29/trump-winner-debate/


        Kinda like this "townhall" article better.

        https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahba...e-lie-n2577186
        Last edited by FirstBubba; 09-30-2020, 08:56 AM.

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        • Townhall slam dunk!

          "liberal media conspiracy"!

          https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...iracy-n2577193

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          • I think that the one real clear message that can be taken from the "debate" is that communist chris wallace should be forever banned from "moderating" anything ever again. The only future I can see for communist chris is to referee fake rasseling matches where the favorites are going to win, and the bad guys are going to be pinned.

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            • And that is the way it was folks, September 29th, 2020.
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              • The debate was a massive fundraiser for Joe Biden.

                https://news.yahoo.com/joe-biden-rep...115658258.html

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                • The news analysts seem to have concluded that Trump did not prepare to advance his campaign in positive terms, but was focused on steamrolling over his opponent like a bull in a china shop.
                  His failure to rattle Biden by shouting him down was damaging to his own image.
                  A simple-minded strategy to impress his base back-fired badly.

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                  • What they said: "I'm encouraging my supporters to go into the polls and watch very carefully, because that's what has to happen," Trump said. "I am urging them to do it. In Philadelphia they went in to watch ... they were thrown out. They weren't allowed to watch. There are bad things happening in Philadelphia, bad things."

                    Fact-check: This is untrue. As The Philadelphia Inquirer reported: "There were several reasons — none is corruption — why elections staff did not allow members of the public to arbitrarily enter their offices. The Trump campaign has no poll watchers approved to work in Philadelphia at the moment. There are no actual polling places open in the city right now. And elections officials are following coronavirus safety regulations, such as those limiting the number of people indoors."

                    Trump's call for his supporters to "watch very carefully" also could be interpreted as an intimidation tactic.

                    https://news.yahoo.com/live-fact-che...005936907.html

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                    • Thanks crm and Bubba for filling me in on the so called ‘debates’ ! I have found a few articles on internet and your accounts sound spot on as to the wallace attempts to cover for sleepy ! But since he is a part of the MSM, should we have expected him not to play the part of TP in this matter ? One of the reports that I read stated that biden is still blabbing about the debunked article by the Atlantic and their story of Trump and military persons. Just goes to prove the dimwits will continue to stoop to any depths in their BS !

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                      • I got the sense that Trump's people were led to expect that he was going to destroy his opponent by brute force, and that was the reason for the shouting match and the appearance of violence.
                        This must have been very gratifying to his base.
                        Biden showed a touch of finesse, which would be considered a weakness except that he lost it a bit when he called Trump a clown and hollered at him to shut up.
                        I don't call the debate a win for either side.

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                        • The whining bandicoot has his view, (about to the end of his nose), and I have mine.
                          1) Trump didn't try to win the debate.
                          2) Trump didn't try to energize his base (they don't need it)
                          3) Trump didn't try to get the undecided vote.
                          Trump's whole strategy was to split the Left.
                          1) That's why he made Joe talk about Law Enforcement.
                          2) That's why he challenged Joe about the Green New Deal.
                          3) That's why he pressed Joe when he refused to answer the Supreme Court Packing question and whether he supports Bernie's Manifesto.
                          The Liberal Socialists represent at least 1/2 of Joe's voters.
                          Boy, are they pissed at Joe now.
                          Mission accomplished. Never saw that one coming!
                          communist chris wallace's obvious bias and covering up for creepy joe has even earned condemnation from some of his left wing-nut colleagues.
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                          • Trump also has the endorsement of Proud Boys.

                            https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...l-out-n1241512

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                            • And Trump tried to get an endorsement from the Pope by sending Mike Pomeo to Rome, but the Pope refused to give him an audience because he recognized the visit as an election stunt.

                              https://news.yahoo.com/pompeo-rome-p...114031878.html

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                              • Trump has my endorsement.


                                aTrump 2020

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