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    • Trump operates under the old show business philosophy that there is no such thing as bad publicity.
      So he makes it a point to say or do something, anything, every day, however outrageous, that will keep his name in the news and his picture on your TV screen.
      And the biggest insult he can conjure up against the opposing party is to call the Democrats a do-nothing party, on the theory that doing something, anything, always looks better than doing nothing.

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      • Trump just called Dr. Birx "pathetic."

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...virus-comments

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        • Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post
          Actually, the ALCOA plant in Marjorie, TX has electricity generated "on-site".
          One side of the road is ALCOA. Across the road is IGC (Industrial Generating Corp).
          IGC is a huge, on site mined, soft coal fired, electrical generation plant. It does nothing but provide power to ALCOA for aluminum production.

          There is also a fairly new ALCOA plant near Neches, TX. It also has the ability to mine soft coal on site for aluminum production.

          Near Longview, TX, there is another ALCOA production facility.
          Guess what?
          On site mined coal generating facility.

          There are bauxite deposits in Ark, Ga and Az, but the bulk of ore comes by ship from S. America to the Gulf coast and shipped by rail to production facilities.

          The 3 ALCOA facilities in Texas have 3 things in common.
          1) on site generating facilities
          2) close proximity to soft coal
          3) rail service
          According to ALCOA's website the company only has four operational aluminum plants in the US, none in Texas. Two in Washington state and one in New York. All appear to use hydro power from dams (or Niagra Falls). This is no surprise. Coal fired generators, besides being environmentally catastrophic, are much higher maintenance than hydro facilities. For one thing, coal fired power requires immense amounts of water, something that doesn't strike me as being greatly abundant in Texas.

          The bauxite mine in Arkasas hasn't produced anything since 1981. I don't believe the deposits in AL (not AZ) or GA are economically viable. Yes, according to the USGS, the US is 100% reliant on bauxite imports.
          Last edited by Ontario Honker Hunter; 08-07-2020, 04:24 PM.

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          • Well Honk takes care of aoll first blubbers knowledge of aluminum production.

            '99 says Trump called Brix pathetic, what is the rest of the context ? typical '99 slant.

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            • For one thing, coal fired power requires immense amounts of water, something that doesn't strike me as being greatly abundant in Texas.

              Guess that makes you a "strike out".
              Listen, dimwit, Texas isn't all limestone and mesquite, though it has it's share.
              The IGC plant in Marjorie has a lake that provides all the water they need.

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              • Jimbo - Here is the text of the link that I provided.

                "Donald Trump publicly rebuked a second member of the White House coronavirus taskforce on Monday morning, calling Deborah Birx’s assessment of Covid-19’s spread “pathetic” in a tweet.

                Birx warned on Sunday that the coronavirus was entering a new phase in the US and infections were now “extraordinarily widespread” across the country, instead of clustering mainly in a clutch of states and big cities.

                That same day, the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, was critical of Birx in an interview with ABC’s This Week.

                The US has the world’s largest number of cases at 4.6m, or one-quarter of the global total, and 154,361 deaths. Black, Latino and Native communities are experiencing a disproportionate number of deaths, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

                But Trump said on Monday morning that it wasn’t the dismal figures which prompted Birx’s assessment, but Pelosi’s criticism. “In order to counter Nancy, Deborah took the bait & hit us. Pathetic!” Trump tweeted."

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                • On the subject of water in Texas:

                  Natural lakes have been a rare commodity in Texas. In fact, the state had only one natural lake, Caddo Lake in East Texas, that was formed by a log jam. A permanent dam was installed at the lake in the early 20th century.

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                  • Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post
                    For one thing, coal fired power requires immense amounts of water, something that doesn't strike me as being greatly abundant in Texas.

                    Guess that makes you a "strike out".
                    Listen, dimwit, Texas isn't all limestone and mesquite, though it has it's share.
                    The IGC plant in Marjorie has a lake that provides all the water they need.
                    Here, read the sad story of Marjorie, Texas for yourself. It's the same story for most of the rest of the aluminum producers in the US. Electricity became too expensive due to competition from urban and rural development. The Rockdale plant did not own its own power source. The aluminum plant died in 2008 because the power plant's contract to them was too expensive and they wouldn't reduce it. A pissing contest. So Alcoa did what ARCO did in Montana: shut down and sold their contracted power to the rural/urban municipal developers for more money than they could sell aluminum. The power plant boys thought they could also sell it to developer demands when the contract to ALCOA ran out. Oops. They didn't expect the Clean Air Act to finally catch up. Also, clean power sources closer to those population centers provided more efficient and inexpensive energy than the dirty coal stuff. Now both plants have gone down the road. Marjorie is becoming a ghost town. Alcoa is not interested in doing business with the power plant now ... because it has shifted most of its business overseas (e.g. two reduction plants acquired in Russia). So Trump's tariff isn't going to make any difference to the out of work Texas folks ... until they try to buy stuff made of aluminum and have to pay a lot more.

                    Again, tariffs aren't going to fix the problem with America's aluminum producers. It's just a fake look-good gimmick for Trump's "Make America Great Again" scheme. And it will backfire in a HUGE way. Very stupid. But he IS very stupid.
                    https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...-county-texas/

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                    • https://www.citizenfreepress.com/bre...rowd-loves-it/



                      Trump 2020.


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                      • https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...-county-texas/

                        The "Callous Morning News"?
                        That libtard publication ain't even fit to line the parakeets cage.

                        Trump stupid?
                        He's outsmarted everybody, especially House Dimwitcrats!😂😂😂!

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                        • Honker mentioned the fact that Trump is very stupid.
                          Here is a prime example.

                          "
                          When President Donald Trump connected by phone last week with Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson — perhaps the only person in the party who can cut a nine-figure check to aid his reelection — the phone call unexpectedly turned contentious.

                          The 87-year-old casino mogul had reached out to Trump to talk about the coronavirus relief bill and the economy. But then Trump brought the conversation around to the campaign and confronted Adelson about why he wasn’t doing more to bolster his reelection, according to three people with direct knowledge of the call. One of the people said it was apparent the president had no idea how much Adelson, who’s donated tens of millions of dollars to pro-Trump efforts over the years, had helped him. Adelson chose not to come back at Trump.

                          When word of the call circulated afterward, Republican Party officials grew alarmed the president had antagonized one of his biggest benefactors at a precarious moment in his campaign. They rushed to smooth things over with him, but the damage may have been done."


                          https://news.yahoo.com/trump-antagon...104402601.html
                          Last edited by 99explorer; 08-08-2020, 05:12 PM.

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                            • This time the prognosticators are counting the ELECTORAL votes, and not just the popular vote.

                              The first 2020 battleground electoral map by NBC News was released on Friday, showing Joe Biden holding the lead with 334 electoral votes.

                              Donald Trump was trailing behind Mr Biden in the new forecasting with just 125 electoral votes. At least 270 votes in the Electoral College are required to secure a victory in the presidential elections.

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                              • I made the mistake and looked before logging in and all I saw was a failure won't do that again.

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