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    The game plan of the DEMS is to get the 5 Senators who are up for election in Nov, to break with the Conservatives and join the DEMS in voting for impeachment. This would make them very vulnerable in the Nov election and possibly lose and give the DEMS the majority in the Senate. Don't let this happen, that would be a catastrophe.

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    On the other hand, vulnerable Republican senators who vote to exclude witnesses are open to charges of GOP bias.
    It would be a shame if, in the process of saving Trump's bacon, we were to lose control of the Senate.

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    • #3
      They ARE partisan, everybody in the room is partisan.

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        Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
        They ARE partisan, everybody in the room is partisan.
        If the House impeachment was not partisanship, just what in heck was it ? Schiffty is a real POS with some of the argumentation that he has come up with !

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          BHR - Trouble is: They didn't make this stuff up.
          Trump gave them the ammo, and they are using it.
          If Trump loses the election over this, Ruth Bader Ginsberg can retire in peace, knowing her successor will be a Liberal, while Trump can comfort himself saying "Two out of three ain't bad."

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          • #6
            Jimbo and Bowhunter those senators are not biased, they swore and oath as such to Roberts at the beginning. They just don't want to hear from anyone in the room or see any of the documents kept by contemporaneous note takers is because.... reasons. Just because Trump promoted Russian Intelligence agency propaganda and then withheld funding for Ukraine who was fighting a war with Russia one of our major global protagonists, and asked the head of state that he was blackmailing with these funds to make up a story about his political rival is no reason to impeach him. I remember Nixon's backchannel talks with the NVA at the peace accords telling the NV negotiators to not agree, that he'd give them a better deal if the held off until after the election, kind of like Reagan and North trading arms for hostages and wait until after the election. Gee people have been acting treasonous forever.

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              Kinda like Obama telling Medved to tell Putin he would be 'more flexible' after the election. What was that all about ??

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              • #8
                There you go again rat rock making up stuff again, Maybe you should try that reading I was telling you about.I realize you come on here to gas light but why do you do it ?That is the question.You don’t post about outdoors ever. Your a troll ! You go to sites like this online news sites comments sections , Facebook and stuff like that and stir the pot. Good day sir

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                • #9
                  Since the entire impeachment scam is a total accumulation of supposition and innuendoes by the dimwits, the R’s senators are able to also give their opinions as answers without violating their oaths as they do not have to agree with any issues presented. Remember, the dimwits must prove guilt, the R’s do not have to prove innocence !

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                  • #10
                    BHR - Guilt has already been established.
                    The only question before the Senate is whether the president's conduct is serious enough to warrant removal from office.
                    The reason the GOP does not want witnesses is to minimize the evidence of serious misconduct so they can vote "Not Guilty" with a straight face.
                    This is important because that stupid Ukranian phone call could cost us a seat on the Supreme Court if Trump loses the election or if the GOP loses control of the Senate in the election.

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                    • #11
                      I don't think an impeached President has to be removed.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
                        I don't think an impeached President has to be removed.
                        True. Clinton was truly guilty of lying, but the Senate, I think a (R) majority, couldn't muster enough votes (67) to remove him from office.

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                          Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                          Since the entire impeachment scam is a total accumulation of supposition and innuendoes by the dimwits, the R’s senators are able to also give their opinions as answers without violating their oaths as they do not have to agree with any issues presented. Remember, the dimwits must prove guilt, the R’s do not have to prove innocence !
                          The only "guilt" is (D) rhetoric and innuendo. Everything they have presented thus far has been opinion and hearsay.
                          Unfortunately/fortunately for Trump, impeachment is not a legal proceeding, it's purely political.
                          With a majority (D) House, the (D)'s have already stated if the Senate doesn't remove him, they will start new impeachment proceedings.
                          This time it will be for taking out the Iranian, Sulemani, illegally.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rock rat View Post
                            Jimbo and Bowhunter those senators are not biased, they swore and oath as such to Roberts at the beginning. They just don't want to hear from anyone in the room or see any of the documents kept by contemporaneous note takers is because.... reasons. Just because Trump promoted Russian Intelligence agency propaganda and then withheld funding for Ukraine who was fighting a war with Russia one of our major global protagonists, and asked the head of state that he was blackmailing with these funds to make up a story about his political rival is no reason to impeach him. I remember Nixon's backchannel talks with the NVA at the peace accords telling the NV negotiators to not agree, that he'd give them a better deal if the held off until after the election, kind of like Reagan and North trading arms for hostages and wait until after the election. Gee people have been acting treasonous forever.
                            So it's gone from an announcement about an investigation to actually making up dirt?

                            Your bias is showing RR, and no you aren't above it.

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                              ....”and asked the head-of-state that he was blackmailing with these funds to make up a story about his political rival....”

                              damn Rat, you sure can add illustrious high lights of fiction and nonsense to an incident far removed from your telling of it. Please explain to us where in the actual transcript did all of this supposition occur. Or are you totally ignorant of facts, or just plain ignorant ?? It is falsehoods such as you have posted, that continues to push the impeachment scam by your peers !!

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