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  • Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
    According to experts, Trump is not impeached until there is a trial in the Senate at which time he is either guilty and impeached OR vindicated. Another interesting thing is the Senate does NOT need the case from the House, they can proceed without it. These are opinions from experts.

    BTW, Lawrence Tribe of Harvard is the one who has laid out the entire impeachment protocol for Pelosi. And more slime comes out of Harvard.
    As best I understand it, jimbo, Schumer is trying to implement rules for the Senate to conduct the trial. Pelosi won't release the articles to the Senate until McConnell agrees to Schumer's "trial rules".
    Basically, the (D) minority in the Senate dictating how the majority (R)'s can conduct the trial, or insuring the best shot at removing Trump.
    Schumer is telling McConnell he can't call Schiff, Nadler, the whistle blower, etc, etc, and the (D)'s can call Mulvaney, Pence, Pompeo, Giuliani, etc, etc, and restrict the questions the (R)'s can ask!

    In other words, another kangaroo court!

    ....and I believe you're exactly right.
    McConnell doesn't need the House to "forward" the articles, he can proceed without them.
    He can also block any (D) objections like Schiff and Nadler did.

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    • jimbo, you need to bite the bullet and read this article. It is spot on!

      https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/201...s-impeachment/

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      • congress
        Originally posted by 99explorer View Post
        Trump was officially impeached by a full House vote yesterday, Dec. 18, 2019.
        It was a strictly legal proceeding (with political overtones).
        The subpoenas were not enforced in the courts because of time constraints, but defiance of the subpoenas became the second article of impeachment (obstructions of justice).
        Wrong - obstruction of CONGRESS. Which is a nothing burger.

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        • Here's another excellent article jimbo.

          https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...appen/#slide-1
          Last edited by FirstBubba; 12-20-2019, 09:40 AM.

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          • Here's another one jimbo!
            Harvard Law professor Noah Feldman states that until Pelosi sends the "articles of impeachment" to the Senate, Trump "is not" impeached!

            "... Originally posted by 99explorerView Post
            Trump was officially impeached by a full House vote yesterday, Dec. 18, 2019. ..."

            Seems according to Prof. Feldman, 99explorer just got kicked in the cajones!

            ​​​​​​​https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...enate-n2558325

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            • I am sure Donald Trump feels a whole lot better with this scholarly analysis:-))

              Here is some more good news for him:



              U.S. Steel to Eliminate 1,545 Michigan Jobs

              BloombergDecember 20, 2019, 11:23 AM EST











              U.S. Steel to Eliminate 1,545 Michigan Jobs(Bloomberg) -- U.S. Steel Corp. plunged after delivering a barrage of harsh news, warning of a loss and announcing it will shut down most of its Great Lakes Works facility near Detroit, lay off workers and slash its dividend.

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              • Originally posted by 99explorer View Post
                I am sure Donald Trump feels a whole lot better with this scholarly analysis:-))

                Here is some more good news for him:



                U.S. Steel to Eliminate 1,545 Michigan Jobs

                BloombergDecember 20, 2019, 11:23 AM EST











                U.S. Steel to Eliminate 1,545 Michigan Jobs(Bloomberg) -- U.S. Steel Corp. plunged after delivering a barrage of harsh news, warning of a loss and announcing it will shut down most of its Great Lakes Works facility near Detroit, lay off workers and slash its dividend.
                Why ????????

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                • Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post
                  Here's another one jimbo!
                  Harvard Law professor Noah Feldman states that until Pelosi sends the "articles of impeachment" to the Senate, Trump "is not" impeached!

                  "... Originally posted by 99explorerView Post
                  Trump was officially impeached by a full House vote yesterday, Dec. 18, 2019. ..."

                  Seems according to Prof. Feldman, 99explorer just got kicked in the cajones!

                  ​​​​​​​https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...enate-n2558325
                  Just write a two line synopsis of the articles. I don't read them.

                  That's right, the House voted to pursue impeachment in the Senate. Some scholars say the Senate does not need the articles, they can just dismiss the case.
                  Last edited by jhjimbo; 12-20-2019, 07:24 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

                    Why ????????
                    Here is an excerpt from the article:

                    Citing market conditions with lower prices and the lessening demand of steel, the company said it would idle two of its blast furnaces at the Great Lakes plant in Michigan and the Gary Works plants in Indiana.

                    Last week in Pennsylvania, President Donald Trump said his 25 percent tariff on foreign imports has turned a "dead" business into a "thriving" enterprise.

                    In September, he tweeted, “Our Steel Industry is the talk of the World. It has been given new life, and is thriving.”

                    But his promises to add additional tariffs on Chinese imports is a move that has caused drastic plunges in the stock market. Since Trump announced steel tariffs on March 1, 2018, U.S. steel stock prices have fallen by 34 percent.

                    An official at the United Steelworkers union, which represents U.S. Steel workers, told Reuters that layoffs were also planned for the Gary Works facility in Indiana.

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                    • Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

                      Just write a two line synopsis of the articles. I don't read them.
                      You're incorrigible jimbo.
                      I'm no longer in school, I don't do book reports anymore.
                      One simple click of the mouse and you can read it in its entirety yourself.

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                      • Look out below!!

                        https://currently.att.yahoo.com/huff...091246776.html

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                        • Has anyone noticed that Trump and his defenders hardly ever use the words "withhold," "military aid," "Ukraine," "solicit," personal benefit," or "national security?"
                          All we hear is "fraud," "witch hunt" and "hoax."
                          Last edited by 99explorer; 12-21-2019, 04:27 PM.

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                          • I find it odd that Sens. Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer, who are members of the senate jury, are engaged in a dispute over the rules of the impeachment trial procedure, while Chief Justice John Roberts, who will be presiding over the trial, is not involved.

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                            • 99, Roberts presides over the hearing, the senators decide on the rules.

                              The Republicans are in a not great place except that no one pays attention anyway, the whole thing is an inside baseball kind of issue. When Clinton went in front of the senate the vote on the rules was 100/0. They all agreed. The objective was to get to the truth even if it made Clinton look bad, and whoo doggie did it ever. They did have some back and forth about how Clinton was to appear, finally they agreed on a video chat thing.

                              The problem with Trump is he's guilty, and everyone knows it. Even Trump. They don't want to hear from the material witnesses who were there at the time, Giuliani, Bolton, whoever the chief of staff was at the time. Bolton is such a straight arrow he'd take pleasure in telling the truth. Trump testifying is out of the question, he'd perjure himself if you asked him what he had for breakfast, he lies obsessively as a test of loyalty, like you either ignore the lie or you're fired.

                              I don't know what they are going to do. Probably most the country just wishes they'd get over it and onto something more interesting, like porn stars or something. Everything is on hold until Jan 6 or something. Everyone on vacation.

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                              • Rock - I love that third paragraph.
                                I had to laugh out loud.

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