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  • #16
    Originally posted by CD2 View Post
    So how many miles of border wall got built today?

    I am going to guess one mile.

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...pentagon-says/

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    • #17
      Originally posted by CD2 View Post
      So how many miles of border wall got built today?

      Which sector?

      https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/...patrol-sectors
      Last edited by FirstBubba; 09-25-2019, 05:25 PM.

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      • #18
        CD2 wrote "the only way to combat global warming is less people "

        The most radical proponents in the "Earth First" movement at the very beginning had that very idea. After Algore wrote Earth in the Balance, people got wind of those nuts and found out the most rabid Earthfirsters advocated extermination of humanity to save Spaceship Earth.

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        • #19
          Here is a picture of the Ukraine president with Donald Trump at the UN today.
          Now, I ask you, does he look like he could be intimidated?


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          • #20
            Today didn't go well.

            The transcripts of the phone call are fairly dambing, even with half of the words redacted. Trump had a press conference and looked pretty bad. Monotone, low voice, looked tired, stuffing knocked out. We'll see how he bounces back.

            They aren't going to vote on anything until after the inquiry. Today also the whistle blower complaint was handed over. The tendency is to circle the wagons in Republican land, but then there is senator Romney, and also Sasse who sits on the intelligence committee who said obviously there is some "there there" after reading the whistle blower's complaint.

            And who is the whistle blower? Someone, probably NSA, taking contemporaneous notes. Probably someone aware that he is taking a very big chance.

            I used to pay attention to who was advocating impeachment over the Putin stuff and paying off the porn star, making money off hotels, etc. Lots of stuff that qualified for impeachment before, but silly to suggest. We have a very corrupt government, to my mind Trump had only been doing what is a regular thing in our corrupted govt. A lot of level headed Democrats publicly ruled impeachment off the table. Today quite a few of them changed their minds.

            Things have gotten more serious in the past 24 hours. I follow Trump on Twitter, last 30 something hours have been different, lots of retweeting of supporters or denials by others. Usually he is about 1 retweet out of 20 maybe.

            I think they have the votes to impeach as of tonight, they should go through the process though and let it all come out. The senate probably won't convict, and Clinton was re elected after being impeached, but the reasons for impeachment are different. Clinton perjured about an extramarital affair. Trump pressured a foreign head of state with military aid to dig up 10 year old dirt that didn't exist on a political rival.

            Wish I had time to watch it all.

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            • #21
              rock rat, outta your TDS meds I see.
              Would you like some one to send you a new roll of tin foil?
              You will feel better when those crazy radio waves stop.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by dewman View Post
                They've been running a non stop impeachment inquiry since before he was sworn in. Yawn. No idea what Pelosi was trying to accomplish. A little job security before the elections maybe.
                She needs to use more PolyGrip.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by rock rat View Post
                  Pelosi tonight called for an impeachment inquiry. She's been avoiding holding one forever, the reasons a proceeding are bad are many. Bad for Dems politically, bad because voters would rather vote people out of office. It could backfire and you can't impeach someone just because they are a rude lowlife liar. This time though Trump might have stepped in it.

                  It looks very likely that he withheld $400 million in badly needed military aid to Ukraine in their war with Russia demanding the Ukraines supply some dirt on Biden. Bolton the National Security advisor was dead set against this as were many Republican senators etc. The Russians after all did invade a sovereign country.

                  I have a funny feeling about this one, and I don't expect Trump to get much loyalty from the R party. They support him when they are scared of him, they'll turn a 180 in a heartbeat if it's in their best interests. Politicians are some of the most chicken hearted in existence.

                  Not sure how it leaves me feeling. Been reading candidates platforms and getting disgusted. One suggests raising PR funds another 30% to fund anti gun nuttery. Two say ban all fracking (and buy from the Saudis maybe?) or how about AR confiscations, not sure who is anti confiscation, Sanders I think, maybe Shotgun Joe. Most everyone is pro open borders. With those kinds of platforms they'd lose to a dead fish in the general.

                  Will impeachment pass the house?
                  No Way ! IF they do that it will be the end of the Democratic Party as a high percentage of the Country is against it.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

                    No Way ! IF they do that it will be the end of the Democratic Party as a high percentage of the Country is against it.
                    jimbo, to start an actual "impeachment inquiry", Pelosi "must" bring the proposal to the House floor for a vote.
                    She did not.
                    She simply declared that an impeachment inquiry would begin.
                    Basically, she put the cart before the horse.
                    Everything she does now is useless.

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                    • #25
                      rock rat, here's your lady, stumping for GOP voters!
                      Neato, huh?

                      https://www.redstate.com/sister-told...ck-simply-not/

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                      • #26
                        Pelosi is not taking a vote for a few reasons. It would identify who voted for what and they don't want that. Also, it would open discussion from the Conservatives and they don't want that either. This way she appeases the radicals with a nothing burger.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
                          Pelosi is not taking a vote for a few reasons. It would identify who voted for what and they don't want that. Also, it would open discussion from the Conservatives and they don't want that either. This way she appeases the radicals with a nothing burger.
                          All I know, jimbo, is GOP fund raising has gone through the roof!

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                          • #28
                            As I understand it, the impeachment inquiry is a prelude to the actual vote to impeach.
                            It is designed to lay out all the facts before the full House of Representatives, and if a majority (218 votes) is in favor of impeachment, a trial is conducted on the floor of the Senate.
                            The Democrats hold 235 seats in the House, and Pelosi already has 206 votes to impeach.

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                            • #29
                              I think the most damaging revelation in the whistle blower's complaint is the lengths to which the White House went to "lock down" all records of the phone call, treating it as though it were highly classified material.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by 99explorer View Post
                                I think the most damaging revelation in the whistle blower's complaint is the lengths to which the White House went to "lock down" all records of the phone call, treating it as though it were highly classified material.
                                The most damaging revelation in the whistle blowers complaint is to the (D)'s political reputation and aspirations! LOL!

                                Trump 2020!
                                Trump 2024!
                                Trump 2028!

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