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  • #16
    Trump didn't turn the economy around, it still sucks for most Americans, ie a continuation of Obama. Obama deported a lot more, Trump has done little to reduce the number that are here, still around 11 million by some estimates, no e-verify. Around 400,000 enter illegally per year. Most oil is coming from private lands. Coal is still being shut down (not a bad thing but all the people out of work, nothing done for them). The IRS makes much more catching scofflaws than it costs to operate, so Republicans have cut funding for years, so they won't get audited. My income went up 20% in 18, and I paid about 3% less. Giving people like me a tax break does nothing, I invest in the market, I don't spend. Raising the minimum wage would create much greater boost as it would all get spent.

    Trump is a vulgar idiot. I like the tiny tariffs he imposed, and the loud posturing about illegal immigration. He moved the overton window on immigration, but pressure from Chamber of Commerce and big business (aka the Republican Party) kept him from truly reducing illegal labor, they like paying cheap wages.

    Trump's morals are in the toilet. Hush money to a porn star, draft dodging, bragging about cheating on taxes, all a bad example for the head of state.

    He's good on guns, kind of ok about public lands out west. Done nothing about wolves. I like Gorsuch, maybe ok with Kavaugh.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by rock rat View Post
      Trump didn't turn the economy around, it still sucks for most Americans, ie a continuation of Obama. Obama deported a lot more, Trump has done little to reduce the number that are here, still around 11 million by some estimates, no e-verify. Around 400,000 enter illegally per year. Most oil is coming from private lands. Coal is still being shut down (not a bad thing but all the people out of work, nothing done for them). The IRS makes much more catching scofflaws than it costs to operate, so Republicans have cut funding for years, so they won't get audited. My income went up 20% in 18, and I paid about 3% less. Giving people like me a tax break does nothing, I invest in the market, I don't spend. Raising the minimum wage would create much greater boost as it would all get spent.

      Trump is a vulgar idiot. I like the tiny tariffs he imposed, and the loud posturing about illegal immigration. He moved the overton window on immigration, but pressure from Chamber of Commerce and big business (aka the Republican Party) kept him from truly reducing illegal labor, they like paying cheap wages.

      Trump's morals are in the toilet. Hush money to a porn star, draft dodging, bragging about cheating on taxes, all a bad example for the head of state.

      He's good on guns, kind of ok about public lands out west. Done nothing about wolves. I like Gorsuch, maybe ok with Kavaugh.
      You sound like you don’t know which way to jump ! Criticize in one hand and stroke with the other. You can’t have it both ways, either be pleased with the good, or piss and moan about the bad ! Find me one politician whole serves up the whole platter. Most of what you bitched about in immigration, and what Trump tried to do about it was all shot down by liberal judges, but that seems to be quick and to the Dems liking so they can blame it all on Trump. You D’s all sound alike, all mouth and no solutions, that is with the exception of higher taxes, more illegals and of course your sanctuary cities and States, with your big push on gun control, abortion after birth. And of course we can not forget your push of socialism for a capalistic government. So damn much to offer this country, how could we ever go wrong with a frigging party like that ????
      Come up for air and take breath of fresh thoughts !
      Last edited by bowhunter75richard; 03-23-2019, 04:16 PM.

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      • #18
        The dems have nothing on DJT and knew that going in.
        The whole thing just a smear tactic.........if they say there's trouble long and loud enough, people will believe it.
        Just a slight spin on their winning 2016 tactic.
        Clueless. Lied all the way through that election and believed their own BS.
        No wonder they want illegals and 16 yr olds the right to vote.

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        • #19
          BTW I never heard DJT brag about cheating on taxes.
          He did use the system to his advantage, legally.
          And he didn't create the system.
          Sounds like a savvy businessman to me.

          Don't like the system, blame the system.

          Much more interested in the Clinton machine...........urianiam and half million dollar speeches.
          Heck, lets go back to their investments in Whitewater.
          Vince Foster and Seth Rich, room temperature book ends to the Clinton dynasty.

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          • #20
            But but but, Trump says mean things!

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            • #21
              McStain peddling the illegal dossier.........that wasn't a mistake.
              That wasn't a tumor.
              That was well within his character.
              Never liked that guy.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by CD2 View Post
                McStain peddling the illegal dossier.........that wasn't a mistake.
                That wasn't a tumor.
                That was well within his character.
                Never liked that guy.
                He always did give the impression of a mealy mouth little prick and proved it with his actions on obamacare, and that after assuring his voters he would vote it down. Nothing more than what a typical Dem wouldn’t do, fit right in with the rest of the scum !

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                • #23
                  Bottom line, McCain served in Vietnam and was a POW, Trump dodged the draft. Simple as that.

                  As for the Affordable Care Act, it has saved a lot of lives, and kept many from bankruptcy, increased quality of life. McCain was dying, had nothing to worry about, voted his conscience. Trump is a shyster businesswise, kept a whole army of lawyers to fight the IRS and his multiple bankruptcies so he could get out of paying investors and contractors what he owed them.

                  I give him credit where he's done things I like, but he's a low life, always has been. McCain might not always have been on his best behavior, but sometimes that honor stuff you pick up in the military shone through.

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                  • #24
                    I keep telling you rat, anger and jealousy doesn't look good on you.

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                    • #25
                      Wow, a veteran and a POW...........shoulda ran for Pope instead of Senate.

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                      • #26
                        Has anybody else heard McCain did not always conduct himself in the best possible way when a POW ? I have heard that from a couple different sources. I personally never cared for the guy. His Wife is interesting with her Drift Racing of her Corvette.

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                        • #27
                          "... Bottom line, McCain served in Vietnam and was a POW, Trump dodged the draft. Simple as that. ..."

                          Bottom line, HRC was a bitter, self centered, egotistical, self entitled, socialistic, gun grabber, murdering liar, money grubbing whore that had absolutely NO accomplishments or qualifications to run for POTUS.
                          She was such a poor, stupid candidate, she had to have Wasserman-Schultz "rig" the primary race to even beat Crazy Bernie!

                          If there was a vulgar idiot in the 2016 POTUS election, it was without a doubt, Hillary Rotten Clinton!
                          ...and YOU voted for HER!!!


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                          • #28
                            Damn Bubba, I wish you would just come out and say what you think instead of beating around the bush !! I have a hard time figuring out your point of contention when you talk so nicely. But I will admit, we can’t find a better spokesman !!!!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post

                              Trump is not a politician! LOL!
                              That was my point Bubba 😂

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rock rat View Post
                                Bottom line, McCain served in Vietnam and was a POW, Trump dodged the draft. Simple as that.

                                As for the Affordable Care Act, it has saved a lot of lives, and kept many from bankruptcy, increased quality of life.
                                umm, please explain this a little better because apparently you and I are in two different countries. Maybe even a universe!

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