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    I agree with Brent Hume he said he had covered over 40 State of the Union speeches and he remembers very little about them but he said he would remember the President's content of his speech tonight. After all of his accomplishments ( verified) how can anyone be against him.. The Democrat party wanting to kill babies right up to the minute they are born, not wanting to protect our borders from trash and illegals, to trying to promise everyone everything free, someone has to pay for it. I wanting to build a wall but now that it is his agenda all the democrats are against it, They have said they will be against everything that the President tries to do. Like a bunch of spoiled brats who didn't get their way just because crooked Hillary didn't get elected..

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    Originally posted by Sarge01 View Post
    I agree with Brent Hume he said he had covered over 40 State of the Union speeches and he remembers very little about them but he said he would remember the President's content of his speech tonight. After all of his accomplishments ( verified) how can anyone be against him.. The Democrat party wanting to kill babies right up to the minute they are born, not wanting to protect our borders from trash and illegals, to trying to promise everyone everything free, someone has to pay for it. I wanting to build a wall but now that it is his agenda all the democrats are against it, They have said they will be against everything that the President tries to do. Like a bunch of spoiled brats who didn't get their way just because crooked Hillary didn't get elected..
    The Liberals want abortion up the the minute(s) AFTER birth.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sarge01 View Post
      I agree with Brent Hume he said he had covered over 40 State of the Union speeches and he remembers very little about them but he said he would remember the President's content of his speech tonight. After all of his accomplishments ( verified) how can anyone be against him.. The Democrat party wanting to kill babies right up to the minute they are born, not wanting to protect our borders from trash and illegals, to trying to promise everyone everything free, someone has to pay for it. I wanting to build a wall but now that it is his agenda all the democrats are against it, They have said they will be against everything that the President tries to do. Like a bunch of spoiled brats who didn't get their way just because crooked Hillary didn't get elected..
      Yea and chuck schumer smiling as Trump talked about the abortion thing. Makes me want to puke.

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      • #4
        “They said they would be against everything the President tries to do” !

        I can see an opposing party having their own agenda. Bwt being said, is it right for that opposing party to purposely try to see that the sitting President fails, with no regard as to the consequences to the country or it’s people ? I know politics are dirty, but there has to be some sanity in there someplace. There is very little credibility in the actions of second graders.

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        • #5
          I loved ole bernie when Trump said we will nevet be a socialist country.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
            “They said they would be against everything the President tries to do” !

            I can see an opposing party having their own agenda. Bwt being said, is it right for that opposing party to purposely try to see that the sitting President fails, with no regard as to the consequences to the country or it’s people ? I know politics are dirty, but there has to be some sanity in there someplace. There is very little credibility in the actions of second graders.
            The Democrats wanting the President to fail is like you wanting the pilot flying your airplane to die.

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            • #7
              Trump, to me, was so spot on.
              One of the "fact checkers" discovered that Trump had softened some of his numbers.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JasonT View Post
                I loved ole bernie when Trump said we will nevet be a socialist country.
                It was like somebody shoved a lemon in his mouth and a catheter up his butt! LOL!

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                • #9
                  How America felt about Trump's SOTU address all depends upon WHERE you look.

                  https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...-sotu-n2540888

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                  • #10
                    He never even mentioned the debt and our trillion dollar deficit. Trump has focused on immigration and trade more than anything else. He should stop obsessing so much about the ways foreigners affect us and start paying attention to the mess Americans made, because those ones will be our downfall. But as Trump put it, he won't be here when our debt becomes a real problem.
                    Yes, Trump is far better than the Social Democrats, but he still sucks.

                    I commend you Sarge on your honesty about why you want a wall. These ridiculous humanitarian grounds like we heard last night actually undercut the argument. Deaths of border crossees were driven up by greater border enforcement. Enforcement assumed that by greater patroling of the easier paths the fact that the paths left open were dangerous and difficult would serve as a deterrent; it didn't. Border crossing deaths began plummeting when asylum applications increased.
                    While Trumps sex trafficking claims were generally false in their numbers the truth of the matter is the same border security is what drives migrant women into the arms of smugglers and the sexually exploitative. Not to mention the consequences would be immigrants would face for staying in places where crimes like sex slavery are actually prevalent should they be deterred by a wall and closed asylum.

                    Don't take this as an argument for or against the wall. A wall and more security would be for America's benefit at the cost, not increased well being, of migrants. To say otherwise is both false and patronizing.
                    Last edited by Harmonious Fulmination; 02-06-2019, 01:52 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Jeff Glor, CBS News, "A CBS (?) poll shows 76% approve of Trump's speech and 72% agree with how he wants to handle "border security"!
                      i.e. - wall, barrier, fence, or whatever you want to call it.

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                      • #12
                        "... Don't take this as an argument for or against the wall. A wall and more security would be for nobody's benefit at the cost, not increased well being, of migrants. To say otherwise is both false and patronizing. ..."

                        Okay, as you wish!
                        Then this isn't an argument. It' a blatant statement.
                        Your above statement is asinine.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post
                          "... Don't take this as an argument for or against the wall. A wall and more security would be for nobody's benefit at the cost, not increased well being, of migrants. To say otherwise is both false and patronizing. ..."

                          Okay, as you wish!
                          Then this isn't an argument. It' a blatant statement.
                          Your above statement is asinine.
                          I made a huge a typo in that comment let me fix it.

                          "Don't take this as an argument for or against the wall. A wall and more security would be for America's benefit at the cost, not increased well being, of migrants. To say otherwise is both false and patronizing."

                          Fixed.

                          I don't see what is so asinine about the notion that keeping migrants out of America and making there journeys more dangerous and difficult isn't good for them.
                          Last edited by Harmonious Fulmination; 02-06-2019, 02:02 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post
                            Jeff Glor, CBS News, "A CBS (?) poll shows 76% approve of Trump's speech and 72% agree with how he wants to handle "border security"!
                            i.e. - wall, barrier, fence, or whatever you want to call it.
                            First off, that was of people watching the sate of the union, not voters at large. Second off, I love how you guys cite "fake news" media stats when it suits you. Third, I wonder if that agreement with Trump's immigration stance in the poll had more to do with his comments on decreasing illegal immigration but increasing legal immigration, goals even wall opponents like myself support. Support for the wall has been falling.

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                            • #15
                              "Don't take this as an argument for or against the wall. A wall and more security would be for America's benefit at the cost, not increased well being, of migrants. To say otherwise is both false and patronizing."

                              Fixed.
                              Much better. But still way off base.

                              Your statement is asinine because the wall does benefit the migrants.
                              Once migrants figure out paying a "coyotes" no longer has a chance of getting them into the U.S., "coyotes" no longer make money.
                              Once cartels find out their "mules" chance of getting caught goes up to 90%/95%, it will redirect drug traffic to legal POE's.
                              Human/sex slave traffic will be reduced when forced into a legal POE.
                              If you haven't heard, coyotes bilk migrants out of thousands of dollars then dump them in the middle of where to perish.
                              Cartels kidnap their drug mules and threaten to kill the rest of their family if they don't obey.
                              Human/sex traffickers can't make money when their "merchandise" perishes on the trail.

                              No wall, barrier, fence or whatever will be 100% effective, but by forcing illegal activities into legal POE's raises the chances of catching the offenders.

                              Yes! A barrier is of great benefit to migrants!
                              Last edited by FirstBubba; 02-06-2019, 03:33 PM.

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