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I saw an all-black deer while hunting in upstate New York last season. One of my buddies saw it too, so I'm not crazy. How rare

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  • #16
    Its just like a white deer.

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    • #17
      they are very rare even more rare than in albino deer

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      • #18
        wowza

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        • #19
          The deer you describe is called melanistic coloration. This is caused by the genes that produce brown or black coloration in hair. When certain genes associate in a deer the hair color will be brown or some variation thereof. When genes for producing melanin, a black pigment, predominate a melanistic deer results. A melanistic deer lacks white color in the typical places (eye ring, muzzle ring, throat, and belly) you see in a normal deer, but retain the white flag under the tail. These are rare deer. Usually less than 10 are reported harvested annually in the United States during a hunting season. Most states have no record for a melanistic deer being harvested. Most states with a record are of only one or two animals. Texas is the only state with multiple records. As a matter of fact there is a concentration in central Texas in the Austin-San Antonio area, but melanistic deer are rare there also.
          I conduct research on color variation in deer. I would appreciate any information any of you have on melanistic (black), albino or piebald deer.

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          • #20
            Blackbuck-I saw a Black Deer this a.m. in my backyard in Eastern Forsyth county in North Carolina. I never knew they existed. My research on the net found your posting. I will try to get a pic IF I see it again. Good Luck on your research.

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            • #21
              My father claims to have seen them to... Especially in large numbers around the Mt. Morris, New York-Letchworth Park area... Many years ago he worked on the Erie-Lackawanna railroad and would dead-head out to those places. He always thought it was the green beans they ate! Supposedly there were lots of green bean fields (on another note went on how certain companies would come in and get the "pick of the crop" and so forth with lesser companies) and he would see them in there eating the green beans! I loved green beans as a child and would eat them by the fist full... I had deep black hair... So I guess the crazy logic wasn't lost on that old railroad worker!
              ;-).

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              • #22
                never heard of one. You are very lucky to have seen one

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                • #23
                  A friend of mine almost hit a black deer today on Division St. in Palmyra, NY.

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                  • #24
                    That would be something I would like to see. All black deer, who would've thought.

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                    • #25
                      There is a .0005% chance of this occurrence. Pretty freaked rare, and really cool. I saw a vid on here with an all white one. That was cool too.

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                      • #26
                        less than 1%

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                        • #27
                          I was traveling Last week, I was on Rt 219 Headed South from Williamsville NY To Springville NY And as I was approaching the Boston NY Exit... A very large "BLACK BUCK" Crossed 4 lanes about 4 feet in front of my SUV... I slammed on my brakes and shook my head at what I just saw... I am a cowgirl who lives in the country and see deer Everyday, I dodge them all the time, Yet hit at least one a year always doing damage to my vehicle.. Thats how many I am surrounded by.. But I have "Never seen a black buck" Until last week... he was being chased by hunters and was on the run.. But very slow paced... I told my husband when I got home.. and he laughed at me.. (Pissed me right off) I tried explaining what I saw to his hunting buddies and the husband started laughing at me again, which made his hunting buddies all laugh at me too.. making me feel embarrassed.. So I just stopped talking about it and started researching here on the internet and seen pictures of some hunters who have indeed shot them.. Of course I had to show the husband my research and I told him that I will be correcting all of his hunting buddies with my findings and he said "Quote" "I never doubted you" I have just never seen one or ever heard of them before" Yeah Ok.. Change your mind about it now? Whatever!! I love these guys that call themselves "Bigtime Hunters" Yet I have never hunted a day in my life and have to correct them that "Black Bucks" Do exist after all, Now I just pray someone will get lucky and hunt this buck while season is open.. So maybe the local news will have it on for all to see..

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                          • #28
                            Not very rare in Harlem!

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                            • #29
                              Not very rare in Harlem!

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                              • #30
                                You are a lucky man. I wish I could have seen it.

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