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A little American Trivia. Who is considered the "Patron Saint Of America". Hint go back to beginning of our nation.

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  • Carl Huber
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    Very true Ozark. My favorite was the identity of the "Wh0re of Babylon". The Catholic's said it was Pagan Rome and The Protestant's said it was the Catholic Pope. You have to love it. I try to take my Dad's advice. Mostly all religion teaches you to be a better person except with a few different dietary restrictions and different holiday's. He said better to associate with a person who practices his different religion. Than one of your own who does not.

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  • ozarkghost
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    Carl, I have found that anyone from any religion considers those of other faiths infidel/heathen/gentile/pagan. It is just another tag that we have to put to people that we just don't understand. If you back far enough the Druids and Celts (pronounced kelts) were the first European Pagans. Strangely enough the Romans, who were polytheists themselves, put that tag on them.

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  • Carl Huber
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    Very good Ozark. But I believe Pagan referees to any religion that is Polytheists. Belief in many Gods. That is why some others referee to us Catholics as Pagan because we pray to Saints to intercede on our behalf.

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  • 99explorer
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    You learn the most interesting things on this forum.

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  • ozarkghost
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    jhjimbo, they were more animistic than pagan if you use the correct definitions. Unfortunately, Christians use the term pagan for anyone who is not a Christian. The early settlers referred to Tamanend as a 'saint' because he was instrumental in letting them keep their scalps. Pagan or not he was a saint to them. BTW he is celebrated on May 1 each year.

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  • Carl Huber
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    Indians Pagans not necessarily. White people gave him the title

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  • jhjimbo
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    I thought the Indians were pagans?

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  • Carl Huber
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    And we have a winner!! Refereed to as Saint or King. Leader of the Delaware Indians he believed in compromise and negotiation instead of Scalping everybody. A statue of him was front and center in Tammany Hall. A different sort of Scalping took place in that hollowed building.

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  • ozarkghost
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    Tamanend, an American Indian in the Pennsylvanian area who greeted William Penn and his followers and helped to arrange the treaties that allowed him to buy the land and settle Pennsylvania.

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  • Carl Huber
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    PS The sainthood was facetious

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  • Carl Huber
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    Best known in Pennsylvania and in New York. Actually started a few societies and fraternal organizations.

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  • Gary Devine
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    Kenyon Coleman a 6-5, at 293 pounds plays Defensive End, for the New Orleans Saints and wears number 99.

    Carl, I am stumped!

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  • Carl Huber
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    No 99 think affable

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  • 99explorer
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    I am going to guess it is either St. Jude, the patron saint of hopeless cases, or St. Augustine, the patron saint of brewers.

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  • Carl Huber
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    No; think politics

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