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Trivia: What make of gun fired the first shot of WWI?

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  • #16
    OH; yes it did but the latest round was because the Muslim's were backing the Nazi's during WWII. The Soviets took over and when they withdrew all heck broke out. One thing about the world at one time or another it's been a place of grudges. I always found it interesting that Ho Chi Min was our Allie against the Japanese. All he asked for was some help against the French after the war and we know how that worked out. Incidentally my Dad had a friend who fought for the French at Die Bien Phu. He said there was a large contingent of former German soldiers.
    PS The clothing of which you speak was on loan to New York's Museum on Natural History in the 70's. Along with other clothing and artifacts of the period.

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    • #17
      I'm going to guess that the first shot fired in World War II was an accidental discharge, and the whole war was a misunderstanding:-)

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      • #18
        Carl the 13th Demi-Brigade of the Foreign Legion was garrisoned at Dien Bien Phu and were all but wiped out there. Being the Foreign Legion and just after WWII it is no surprise that it was manned by soldiers from the German Wehrmacht and Waffen SS. The Legion has a tradition of taking any and all who volunteer.

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        • #19
          Carl, it is difficult to define Marshal Tito's regime as being part of the Soviet block. Under his clever leadership Yugoslavia exercised a remarkable degree of independence for a so-called communist country, eventually becoming a leader in the "Non-Aligned Movement." Check it out, under his leadership Yugoslavia was really "communist" in name only. There is some evidence to suggest that he even arranged for Stalin's assassination by poisoning!

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          • #20
            The first shots fired in WW2 was from a German ship called the Schleswig-Holstein fired the first shots of World War II when she fired at the Polish naval base at Westerplatte in the early morning hours of September 1, 1939.

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            • #21
              And where will the first shot be fired in the next conflict? Middle East?, China-Taiwan?, Korea?

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              • #22
                Thanks, Gary. Wouldn't have guessed that.

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                • #23
                  Getting back to the Archduke what specialized garment was he wearing on the faithful day?
                  As far as the French Foreign Legion. My wife's best friends father had to get out of Italy. He went to France and was offered citizenship after a 5 year stint in the FFL. Next stop Viet Nam.
                  PS France is one of the few countries that does not allow their main fighting force to reside in France. At the time they had to stay in Algeria.

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                  • #24
                    Someone should tell China that WW2 didn't start until '39

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                    • #25
                      Carl - I did not know that France does not allow its main fighting force to be deployed at home.
                      That policy does not work very well when the German tanks are rumbling across the border:-)

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                      • #26
                        Amflyer, a world war needs to involve the world. Thanks to the ineffectiveness of the League of Nations and the general popularity of appeasement in international diplomacy, the Second Sino-Japanese War was never anything but a regional conflict, much like the Spanish Civil War of the same period. It was incorporated into WWII only after the bombing of Pearl Harbor brought the US and Britain into conflict with Japan. Most Chinese would be quite indignant if anyone tried to claim the Second Sino-Japanese War as the beginnings of WWII. Their struggle against Japanese aggression was essentially ignored by the West for a decade before WWII started in Poland.

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                        • #27
                          99 I wasn't very precise. The French Foreign Legion is made up of foreigners and enforce Frances interests abroad. That is why there not allowed on French soil. There was a protest in the 70's or 80's for this ill treatment.
                          As far as the Archdukes specialized garment. He was wearing a bullet proof vest, but was shot in the neck. I guess what had to be had to be.

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                          • #28
                            Not to get off point but I have a Chinese friend who HATES the Japanese. Something about the [email protected] of Nan king. It was so bad the Nazi Ambassador to China wrote a formal letter of protest. You know it had to be brutal to make a loyal Nazi wince.

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                            • #29
                              At that time the Nazis were supplying military advisors to the Nationalist Army of China. Not surprising that a Nazi diplomat would be protesting what the Japanese were doing in China.

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                              • #30
                                BTW, the Russians put up lots of statues of Russian soldiers in the countries they occupied as part of the former Soviet Union. Almost universally, the statues were named by the local citizenry as "The Unknown Rapist."

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