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  • jhjimbo
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    Originally posted by PigHunter
    Deer Can Give You Tuberculosis: CDC (webmd.com)

    According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention people can get a rare type of tuberculosis, called bovine tuberculosis, from deer.

    Such was the case of one 77 year-old Michigan hunter, who most likely got sick by inhaling the germ while removing a dead deer's infected organs, CNN reports.

    The patient had been hunting in an area where two other hunters were infected more than 15 years ago.

    Bovine tuberculosis makes up under 2% of all tuberculosis cases in the U.S. Although mostly eliminated in cattle, it's still found in wild bison, elk and deer, the CDC said.

    The infection is usually gotten by eating or drinking unpasteurized dairy products or having direct contact though an open wound while hunting or slaughtering an infected animal, CNN reports.

    Symptoms include severe cough, fever, weight loss, chest pain. The treatment is antibiotics, the CDC said.

    Although rare, anyone working closely with animals that might carry the germ or eating raw dairy should get screened for TB, CNN said.
    TB is a lung disease caused be Microbaterium Tuburculosis - transmitted be extended close contact with an infected person. Most sanitoriums in the U.S. closed in the '80's as the U.S. had almost eliminated the disease. A good friend worked at the one in Mt.Morris, N.Y.. Then immigrants brought it back in and it was a more lethal and a antibiotic resistant strain. Once infected a person could live the rest of their life with the incurable disease. Terrible way to live/die.

    For animals, Michigan hunters used to put out huge bait piles, like several dump truck looads. Well, the deer were in close contact for long periods they started to get the TB. At that time the regulation changed to allow only a bushel basket size pile. 10 minutes and the food is gone and the deer disperse without passing the TB arouind.

    The reason TB is so dangerous is because it is very slow growth. That means the uptake of the antibiotic cocktail is very low. That's right, a cocktail of several antibiotics and they only work at a very low level of success. Can't increase the antibiotics dose any more because they are already close to toxic levels.
    A bacteria culture takes overnight to grow in a petrie dish. It takes T.B. a week to see any growth.
    Drug-Resistant TB | TB |CDC
    Last edited by jhjimbo; 11-04-2021, 10:09 PM.

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  • Danbo
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
    If you shoot a deer that looks and acts sick and you hit it in the lungs you might spread the virus all throughout the internal parts. By all means, don't kiss it on the nose.
    Not worried. Are you?

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  • Danbo
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    Originally posted by Ernie View Post
    Simple answer for me:
    As far as Covid goes, I live my life with joy and not restriction among others who do the same.
    When it comes to hunting, I do the same.
    This was my same mindset before it came along.
    The only way to live.

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  • MattM37
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    Well, I guess nobody but Ernie is shooting much. But we'll surely know what to look out for when we do.

    I've always done the glove-sanitizer thing when field-dressing, especially rabbits and birds. Tularemia sounds pretty gruesome, and once in a lifetime was plenty for salmonella. Doing a deer bare-handed doesn't faze me, and you'd need arm-length gloves anyway for real protection. I tried a pair of those once and shucked them about thirty seconds in. Pretty much worthless, those flimsy ones they sell by the sporting goods counter at the big marts.

    Edit: I know that some deft individuals can field-dress a deer without going in very deep, but I've never been able to do it. I know what I'm doing but I always come out of it messy. I think I just don't really care at that point and want to get it done, so I can get to the dragging and get that done.
    Last edited by MattM37; 11-04-2021, 06:02 PM.

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  • fitch270
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    Originally posted by dewman View Post
    Think I'll fake illness after I drop one and call the brother-in-law and offer him $10 to gut it and throw it in the truck bed for me.😳🤔😈😈😈😈
    About thirty years ago two guys that used to hunt here both shot the same small doe about two hours apart. The first guy caught it straight on nearly taking off one front leg but not getting into the chest cavity. Later on his B-I-L finished her with a shot to the other shoulder. They both had doe tags and were “discussing” who should tag what was left of it when the second shooter offered my cousin $10 to gut it. I was making the first incision before he could get his knife out.

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  • dewman
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    Think I'll fake illness after I drop one and call the brother-in-law and offer him $10 to gut it and throw it in the truck bed for me.😳🤔😈😈😈😈

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

    You can get the virus right after shooting it.
    That's a chance I'll take! LOL!

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  • jhjimbo
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    I talk about all these things and listen and view various news, but in the final analysis I do my own thing.

    I don't believe much of what I hear and less of what I read. I do my own due dillegence and suggest everybody do the same.

    I have seen a great increase in lies from all sources, But I think Wshington started the culture years ago and now it is throughout society - common place.












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  • MattM37
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    I'm inclined to agree that it's anti-hunting bunk. The pandemic is fitting nicely into all kinds of agendas, so why not the one against our most traditional pastime?

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  • Ernie
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    Simple answer for me:
    As far as Covid goes, I live my life with joy and not restriction among others who do the same.
    When it comes to hunting, I do the same.
    This was my same mindset before it came along.

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  • jhjimbo
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    I have heard of Apes in GA and Leopards in CA having the virus but none reported around here in Ohio or NY where I go. Have not heard of any CWD either.

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  • Ernie
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

    You can get the virus right after shooting it.
    Are you going hunting this year?
    Are you worried about it?

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  • jhjimbo
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    Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post

    If the virus can survive a skillet of hot grease or a 300° oven, guess I'll just get sick!

    Is the COVID-19 virus "thermophilic"?
    You can get the virus right after shooting it.

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by crm3006 View Post
    From PigHunter: "New study suggests SARS-CoV-2 spreading widely within wild deer population | Ars Technica"

    Not enough "human" population in that part of the Hill Country to spread the chinese communist virus. Seems like another scare tactic from some off the wall anti hunting maniacs. Nobody in that part of Texas wearing masks, and asking about a jab might get you either shot, or laughed out of town. Consensus in our hunting group was "Vaccination? HELL NO!"
    If the virus can survive a skillet of hot grease or a 300° oven, guess I'll just get sick!

    Is the COVID-19 virus "thermophilic"?

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  • MattM37
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

    Not hunting this year?
    Just making a joke about my venison drought -- not much luck the past few years.

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