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  • Why the Electoral College works

    Here is a look at the results

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    34% of the nation’s 67,980,000 million people who receive welfare live in California, and California has only 12% of the entire U.S. population [Fed stats].This means:  23,113,200 million welfare recipients live in California. 39,487,345 million people total live in California. [more welfare recipients than workers] According to stats, Clinton beat Trump in CA by 2,708,893, so you could say she didn't do that well in California!  here are the facts:Trump led in the total popular vote for all states except California. Hillary won California 5,860,714 to Trump’s 3,151,821.  61.6% to 33.1% exclusive of the other candidates.  [a margin of 2,708,893]Thus, California gave Hillary the popular vote for all states as claimed by the Democrats and their media stooges. But, deduct her California vote from her national vote, leaving her with 59,264,114, and deduct Trump’s California vote from his national total, leaving him with 59,500,442.So, in effect, Hillary was elected president of California and Trump was elected president of the rest of the country.This exemplifies the wisdom of the Electoral College, to prevent the vote of any one populace state from overriding the vote of the others.  Trump’s Campaign Manager, Kellyanne Conway, whose expertise is polling, saw this early on and devised her strategy of “6 pathways to the White House”.  This meant ignoring California with its huge Democrat majority and going after the states that would give him the necessary Electoral votes to win: FL, NC, MI, PA, OH, and WI.  It worked and our country Will Be Secure - after January 20, 2017.One other tidbit: California is one of 11 “welfare states” where there are more people living off the government dole than there are working for a living. This is an example of those who vote (instead of work) for a living.Since they have some time on their hands, they are, most likely, also the ones who have time to “protest,” This shows that without the electoral college, four states would choose our President. 
    Looks like in future Elections, those on Welfare should not be allowed to vote, thus preventing them from determining the outcome of an Election and giving themselves a raise.

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    • #3
      I agree about the Electoral College. It prevents the will of one specific region from overpowering the national will.

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      • #4
        Great post Jhjimbo. I'm not a big Trump supporter but he's my president now so I am rooting for his and our success.

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        • #5
          I agree, the Electoral College is better than just going with the popular vote. The Founding Fathers got it right on this one.

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          • #6
            Tough one, but I disagree. I fully recognize that the electoral college can help rural interests be better represented and not get buried by urban voters. However, that important aspect of our government is already ensured by the U.S. Senate. I believe that in a presidential election, when we all decide on who our leader will be, the vote of every American should be equal in weight.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dougfir View Post
              Tough one, but I disagree. I fully recognize that the electoral college can help rural interests be better represented and not get buried by urban voters. However, that important aspect of our government is already ensured by the U.S. Senate. I believe that in a presidential election, when we all decide on who our leader will be, the vote of every American should be equal in weight.
              As I understand it, the Electoral College is supposed to ensure that all regions of the country have an equal say in who becomes president. Practically-speaking, isn't that pretty much the same thing as every person's vote being equal? Without the EC, voters in heavily-populated areas would have more influence in the outcome of the election - i.e., their votes would have more weight. Maybe that's completely incorrect, but it's how I see it.

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              • #8
                Another way to look at it is that the electoral college vote eliminates the advantage of an "overkill" vote in big states. Al Gore beat George W. Bush in the popular vote in 2000, with large overkill margins in states like New York, but lost in Florida by a little more than 500 votes.

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                • #9
                  Urban areas have a high incedence of illegal voting. More votes are cast than regestered voters. I enjoy the Electoral College giving the less populated areas in the country a role a great thing. Places where kids can carry a knife in school should still have a vote in America in 2017 as they did in 1960.

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                  • #10
                    A very well thoughtout point, the one thing I don't get is the dings? When did having a point of view on this site warrant a ding, you did not insult anyone, all you did is make an educated statement. To you dingers your cowards!

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                    • #11
                      That's also not including the absentee votes. Those only get counted if the margin of victory is less than the number of absentee ballots. I believe New Hampshire is the only state that had to count them in this election (feel free to fact check me I may have that wrong). And the majority of absentee votes are usually conservative, meaning trump likely could've gotten the popular vote had those been counted.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dougfir View Post
                        Tough one, but I disagree. I fully recognize that the electoral college can help rural interests be better represented and not get buried by urban voters. However, that important aspect of our government is already ensured by the U.S. Senate. I believe that in a presidential election, when we all decide on who our leader will be, the vote of every American should be equal in weight.
                        Tammany Hall and Chicago's Machine are still a factor in America today. Without the Electoral College rural America would have to beat the urban areas by 30% just to stay even. The Democrats lie and they cheat and they own urban America.

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                        • #13
                          If we just had the popular vote it will come down to who could win the states with the largest populations. Most of the states wouldn't matter

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                          • #14
                            One thing we have to remember about the Electoral College is that, above all else, it's a compromise. Some wanted the president to elected by representatives, others by popular vote. The Elctoral College is a good bridge in between that gap and offer good benefits besides.
                            I think it could also be seen as a sort of a compromise between the systems of our two legislative house (representation based on population [House] and equal representation regardless of population [Senate]), if that makes any sense.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Outlaw View Post
                              That's also not including the absentee votes. Those only get counted if the margin of victory is less than the number of absentee ballots. I believe New Hampshire is the only state that had to count them in this election (feel free to fact check me I may have that wrong). And the majority of absentee votes are usually conservative, meaning trump likely could've gotten the popular vote had those been counted.
                              Sometimes they don't count absentee if they would not affect the outcome of the election.

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