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  • CD2
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    https://patents.google.com/patent/US2414863

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  • CD2
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    From WIKI

    A Foster slug, invented by Karl M. Foster in 1931, and patented in 1947 (U.S. Patent 2,414,863) is a type of shotgun slug designed to be fired through a smoothbore shotgun barrel. It was designed to enable deer hunting in the Great Depression using smoothbore, choked shotguns. Foster cast them by hand from soft lead, filed grooves on their exteriors, and sold them to his neighbors to improve hunting potential to feed their families. The Foster is the standard American domestic shotgun slug; they are sometimes referred to as "American slugs" to differentiate them from the standard "European slug" design popularized earlier by Brenneke. Some sportswriters have consistently referred to these slugs as a "Forster" slugs, conflating the name with the Forster Brothers who manufactured reloading tools during the same time frame, so "Forster slug" is an alternate spelling that is commonly seen in the popular press of the 1930s for describing these slugs.

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  • Treestand the III
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    Almost any shotgun can shoot "FORSTER Slugs" from full to Cyl bore choke.

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  • amekassa4000
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    Originally posted by NOAMCHOMPSKY View Post
    I know this thread is old but I was looking for advice on this myself. I have a 20 gauge rifled DeerSlayer that wouldn't group with any sabots. Changed scope, rings, etc. Was about to call it quits after I burned my last two dollar sabot, thought wth I'll try these cheapo truball rifled slugs im my bag. Boom, started killing the bullseye from 50 to 100 yards every shot. Saved it from the pawn shop. Figure ill just need to hit the barrel my ip birthday wishes tnebwith a little more penetrating cleaner after shooting.

    i have a shotgun barrel i only shoot buckshot out of it....what kind of slugs can i shoot out of it without damaging mi barrel..it has a removable modified choke in it and iam not going to get a improved cylinder choke thing or whatever
    Last edited by amekassa4000; 08-05-2019, 04:45 PM.

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  • mopakarim78900
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    Originally posted by Jacob Hamilton View Post
    i have question...idk if its been answered before on here so sorry in advance, my ip birthday wishes tnebbut i have a 20 gauge shotgun with the normal barrel that it came with, its a remington 870 express. i wanted to know whats the best slugs ( accuracy wise) that i shuld use for this gun...i dont want to mess anything up.
    According to what I've read, rifled slugs can be shot using a fully rifled barrel. Some say the accuracy is pretty good but there can be some lead fouling depending upon the slug design. The rifling on a Foster slug apparently does not impart a spin but is there to reduce the bearing surface on the barrel and thus reduce friction.
    Last edited by mopakarim78900; 07-18-2019, 12:28 PM.

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  • CD2
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    I thought the "rifling" on foster slugs was to increase barrel contact, for aid in accuracy.
    By not rattling down the barrel and for easier passage through some degree of choke.
    Less leading as well.

    As for knowing what we know........lol............

    in the old days WW had the larger OD on fosters, which made them usually shoot better than Remington's "sluggers". A few years back they did a new and improved slugger with larger OD.

    Still see some of the "new and improved" label boxes now and then. Suspect all new sluggers of larger OD even if the labeling back to standard.

    I use PCR or HP rifle, don't slug gun hunt anymore.
    My pref had moved to rifled barrels and sabot stuff before the change.

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  • JasonT
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    At the end of the day let's not argue and confuse anyone, lets go with what we all know. Sabots are more accurate in rifle barrels and rifled are more accurate in smooth barrels. If you are shooting a smooth barrel shoot remington sluggers through a modified choke, most shotguns hit almost dead on at 50 yards and the the sluggers are about $6.00 a box. If you have a gun with interchangable tubes you can also buy a tube from carlson for shooting slugs out of your gun.

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  • Patty919
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    Originally posted by Jason Janacek View Post
    Here is the TRUTH on this subject. Contrary to popular belief, the "rifled Slug" is not rifled to to produce a spin in the bore of a shotgun. As a matter of fact, anyone familiar with Internal Ballistics will know this. The Foster Rifled slug has rifling to produce a spin as it travels through air. Not the barrel. The slug DOES NOT SPIN IN THE BORE. PERIOD. Now, can you use these slugs in a rifled barrel? Yes. Any rifled barrel will shoot any rifled slug. The rifling in a shotgun bore will cut into the rifled slug and produce its own spin characteristics there. HOWEVER, it will not be as accurate as a sabot slug would be in the same barrel. Hope this helps. Just dont let anyone tell you a rifled slug is rifled to grip the inside of a bore and start a spin on it. It does not. If you want conformation, find a super slow motion video of a foster slug exiting a smooth bore. ----Jason Janacek
    That's actually not true at all. The air doesn't even touch the sides of the projectile, much less "grip" it. Foster slugs do actually start rotation in the bore, albeit slight, but it doesn't take much spin to stabilize a slug. Watch the YouTube video by taofledermaus entitled "do foster slugs really spin".

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  • NOAMCHOMPSKY
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    I know this thread is old but I was looking for advice on this myself. I have a 20 gauge rifled DeerSlayer that wouldn't group with any sabots. Changed scope, rings, etc. Was about to call it quits after I burned my last two dollar sabot, thought wth I'll try these cheapo truball rifled slugs im my bag. Boom, started killing the bullseye from 50 to 100 yards every shot. Saved it from the pawn shop. Figure ill just need to hit the barrel with a little more penetrating cleaner after shooting.

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  • Jacob Hamilton
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    i have question...idk if its been answered before on here so sorry in advance, but i have a 20 gauge shotgun with the normal barrel that it came with, its a remington 870 express. i wanted to know whats the best slugs ( accuracy wise) that i shuld use for this gun...i dont want to mess anything up.

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  • Jason Janacek
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    Here is the TRUTH on this subject. Contrary to popular belief, the "rifled Slug" is not rifled to to produce a spin in the bore of a shotgun. As a matter of fact, anyone familiar with Internal Ballistics will know this. The Foster Rifled slug has rifling to produce a spin as it travels through air. Not the barrel. The slug DOES NOT SPIN IN THE BORE. PERIOD. Now, can you use these slugs in a rifled barrel? Yes. Any rifled barrel will shoot any rifled slug. The rifling in a shotgun bore will cut into the rifled slug and produce its own spin characteristics there. HOWEVER, it will not be as accurate as a sabot slug would be in the same barrel. Hope this helps. Just dont let anyone tell you a rifled slug is rifled to grip the inside of a bore and start a spin on it. It does not. If you want conformation, find a super slow motion video of a foster slug exiting a smooth bore. ----Jason Janacek

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  • Del in KS
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    Listen to Shane I couldn't say it any better.

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  • shane
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    You actually can shoot rifled slugs out of a rifled barrel. Lead is soft and shotgun twist rates are pretty darn slow so it works out OK. Accuracy is decent. Rifled barrels are meant to shoot sabot slugs, though. You will get your best accuracy and ballistics this way.

    Shoot rifled slugs out of a smoothbore barrel. I don't like it, but apparently modified chokes are fine for rifled slugs. I would go with cylinder bore/cylinder choke or improved cylinder chokes for the best accuracy and performace if you can.

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  • PigHunter
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    The Brenneke or Foster style (rifled) slugs should shoot fine in your gun with the modified choke. You will need to try different manufacturers and loadings to see what shoots best. 2-3/4 inch Remington Sluggers are what I use.

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  • deerhound34
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    i have a shotgun barrel i only shoot buckshot out of it....what kind of slugs can i shoot out of it without damaging mi barrel..it has a removable modified choke in it and iam not going to get a improved cylinder choke thing or whatever

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