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  • FirstBubba
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    Without trying to stir up a ".30-06 vs .270" fight all over again, my (ahem!) learned opinion is that the 7.62×39 in a semi auto platform is basically a "semi auto .30-30 Win".
    It (the cartridge) has proved it's lethality on more than one battlefield around the world.

    As a *sporting arm, it should be used with expanding bullets to increase it's effectiveness and like the .30-30 Win, in it's environment, it works very well.

    *I never thought I'd deer hunt with an AR! Guess what....?

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  • Ernie
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    It will kill fine with the right bullet and proper bullet placement.

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  • jhjimbo
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    I contradicted myself. When I first got my SKS and Ruger 7.62X39 I was impressed with the round. As I became more familiar with the round my opinion changed to it is a decent 100yd round. However, if I had a 30-30 or something else I would probably leave the Ruger - 30 or SKS home. Too many other better choices. But, if it is all you have, get close and pick your shot carefully.

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by srvcman39 View Post
    I have used this round the last 2 years and harvested 5 deer with it. Not one made it more then 30 feet without dropping (3 of the 5 were 100-140 yards). The picture is from last weekend and my gun opener was done in 2 hours. I have been using Hornady SST BLACK 123 grain. Click image for larger version

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    Looks like the proof is in the pudding!
    What kinda rifle are you shooting?
    AR? AK? SKS?

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  • srvcman39
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    I have used this round the last 2 years and harvested 5 deer with it. Not one made it more then 30 feet without dropping (3 of the 5 were 100-140 yards). The picture is from last weekend and my gun opener was done in 2 hours. I have been using Hornady SST BLACK 123 grain. Click image for larger version

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  • jhjimbo
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    I would not hunt deer with a 7.62 39 regardless of bullet design. not a .223 either. The 30-30 with the hornady tipped bullets is in my mind an ideal short range set up.

    I see a lot of names from the past on this post, where are these people now ?

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  • gordonyx
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    It depends on where you're at. East of the Mississippi... definitely. x39 will do the job in the eastern woodland forests, brush, and swamp lands, no problem. West of the Mississippi, in the high desert and and mountain ridge tops? Go with something bigger, farther, faster.

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  • rock rat
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    In many places it's the only center fire rifle caliber, and used to shoot all animals, and even worse they only have hard cased military type ammo. I prefer Barnes and a regular hunting rifle but people do make it work for all sized of game. The SKS is also common in those countries and has a longer barrel increasing the speed a little.

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  • jhjimbo
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    I have 3 rifles in 7.62X39 and would not hesitate to take a deer up to 200 yds.

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  • CD2
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    I doubt folks were getting shot w hunting bullets. So the war stuff is of no merit and even more silly to mention.

    As a sporting round yeah it works.
    Deer are thin skinned.
    Everything has pluses and minuses and .....limits.

    The question of the round being deer worthy is a joke. Something to BS around a campfire ot sell magazines.

    A good bullet put in the lungs of a deer within range is what matters. Lots of leeway in that too.





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  • roy12986
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    Ok I had to chime in with will a 7.62x39 drop a deer? Well lets see ask most that have served what they think of this caliber. While is doesn't have the accuracy of the .223 it certainly has stopping power. I read quite a few that compare it to the 30-30 and say that unless you hit a deer just right it won't drop a deer. My response is bull crap. I have used my Ruger mini 30 for years and gotten a deer almost every year. In fact the .223 will drop a deer as well with through and throughs. I have used my AR-15 or Ruger min-14 ranch rifle for deer when my shoulder could not take a high caliber round. Yes the range of the 7. 62 an issue but under 200 yards it will do the job. The SKS was used in Vietnam to our regret and seemed to be able to stop a human with little to no trouble creating some horrible wounds. Now before everyone starts to holler we all have our own opinions right? My favorite round for deer is the .308 for longer range and hitting power. But as a brush gun the 7.62x39 will work just fine and most of those shots are under 150 yards hence brush. It does as much damage as any 30-30 or .35 and I have used all of them for years. I live in the Adirondack Mountains in upstate NY and rarely will we get the chance for long range shots. Any round will work depending on the type of ammo you use. And even though I'm not a spring chicken anymore I try lol. It comes down to you use what you like or what you have. In the end as long as there is meat in the freezer that is what matters.

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  • Steve Shane
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    I hunt with an XCR-L 7.62x39 its incredibly effective, I prefer it over my .308 tbh.
    In my personal experience my .308 will do less damage to the vitals with the same factory load (federal power shok) then the 7.62x39. I suppose the theory is that the larger load travels so fast that it doesnt have the chance to expand where the lighter load will blow a heart to pieces and wont necessarily be a through and through, this I find favorable as I'm sure we can all agree that internal damage is far more important then blowing a leg off . I find the deer still run just as far once hit but I actually feel a lot better about the trauma caused by the lighter load. Ive hopefully uploaded the photo of the heart of this years buck I shot.

    plain and simple its a very effective round, those who say its not have no idea what they are talking about.
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  • Jacob Chandler
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    Originally posted by libertyfirst View Post
    I'm a big fan of the 30-30 Winchester and I feel that this is as light as most hunters should go. The 7.62x39 doesn't measure up to the 30-30 in my opinion. I agree with Ed that the right hunter with a good rifle and good hand loads would probably be alright.
    The 7.62 has been killing people for over half a century, the difference between the two is negligible at best.

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  • Jacob Chandler
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    Jesus Christ, there is so many scientists trying to answer this question of lethality of a cartridge that has been killing humans and deer probably before any of us were born... I’ve hunted people and deer with an AKm and can personally attest to its effectiveness and ability at longer ranges and accuracy. I’ve alsi been in the receiving end of both the 5.45 and 7.62 and they are just as capable as most intermediate cartridges. The same goes with any rifle regardless of muzzle energy, caliber or practical accuracy, if you train and become adequate with the rifle by applying proper fundamentals you can make hits at well beyond what the rifle is designated at. I’ve put rounds repeatedly and “minute of man” accuracies at out to 600 yards with irons and also with a red dot with zero magnification...as far as comparing it to the .30-30 the differences are negligible at best, but what I can say is a lot more living thing have been killed with the 7.62x39 than probably any other cartridge. There are more aks in the world than any platform.

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  • Jay Wright
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    I have a Norinco SKS with a machined receiver, I can hit a golf ball at 100 yards , every time . This cartridge is great for Whitetail .. but you do need a soft point bullet . Anyone that tells you different has never used one . Sometimes I shoot them in the neck and they drop like a load of coal

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