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  • #16
    Originally posted by PigHunter
    The most I've done hunting on foot is about 9 miles. It was in hills but below 500 ft.

    My Ruger American is accurate, was 6.5 lbs from the factory, and cost 1/5 of those pencil barrels.
    PH you are making posts that will not open.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

      O.K. I just thought a lot of rifle companies can use any weight barrel they want. I have a Steyer Mannllicher I would not want to shoot 3 or 4 Click image for larger version

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      The point is, if the rifle is so finicky you cannot even do load development with it with three shot groups without it turning into a big hassle, is a non-starter for folks who want accuracy and the ability to prove down range drops/point of impact.
      When you have to work that hard to get groups better than 2" at a 100 yards it is very frustrating.
      If you are not shooting beyond 350 yards anyway, accuracy doesn't matter that much, as a 2" rifle at 100 is shooting 7" groups at 350 yards all things being equal (not counting wind or field shooting rests).
      Rifle companies do make light weight rifles that shoot good groups.
      But not all do

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      • #18
        Originally posted by PigHunter

        I'm trying to stay away from political conversations as much as possible because of my lack of interest in going back and forth with anyone here. Sometimes I can't help myself but then remember that I don't really care what anyone here thinks about politics.
        Good for you!
        I don't even read the political conversations...

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        • #19
          I have witnessed a number of them shooting quite good out to 500-600 yards.
          Pretty good rifle for the money.
          The one thing I have noticed with rifles (more than one brand) with the Tupperware stocks (that is what I call them) when using a bi-pod, you have to make sure you are not torquing the stock whatsoever, or the forend can end up touching the barrel if you are not careful.

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          • #20
            Sportsman has them for $479, and you even get a picatinny rail to boot.

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            • #21
              I offered to take that poor shooting Mark V lightweight of Dakotaman’s hands when he first whined about its lack of accuracy. 😂😂😂

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              • #22
                Originally posted by PigHunter

                Thanks for the tip about the bipod. I've been shooting mine off sandbags but will use a bipod when confirming sight-in for this coming season. I've only got 38 rounds of factory loaded 143gr ELD-X before switching to handloads.
                If you are on a smooth bench where the legs won't catch, you may not notice it so much, but in the dirt it is easier to do it.. Or just put your hand on the barrel and the forend and tweek it and see how much movement there is. Maybe they have improved them.

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                • #23
                  Not to be a contarian, but I have a Rem 700, '70's vintage 30-06 that shot like a dream with the original wood stock pressing right up against the left side of the barrel. It shot so good, MOA I decided to leave it alone.

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                  • #24
                    You are not.
                    When you have a constant state of touching as with your 700, you are keeping your barrel harmonics the same...That doesn't surprise me.
                    I am talking about when you change your barrel harmonics it can effect POI.

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                    • #25
                      Keep up the posts no time to hunt this year either.

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                      • #26
                        The Harris bi-pod with the notched legs, and the swivel feature works awesome for the money.
                        For a rifle hunter the medium is the all around best.
                        For pure bench the BR version with the same notched legs and swivel feature.
                        There are better bi-pods and you can spend a lot more money, but the Harris will do you right for the money. Be careful of cheap knock offs. Many of them end up having issues-I would suggest buy once/cry once.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ernie View Post
                          The Harris bi-pod with the notched legs, and the swivel feature works awesome for the money.
                          For a rifle hunter the medium is the all around best.
                          For pure bench the BR version with the same notched legs and swivel feature.
                          There are better bi-pods and you can spend a lot more money, but the Harris will do you right for the money. Be careful of cheap knock offs. Many of them end up having issues-I would suggest buy once/cry once.
                          10-4 on the Harris bipod. Unfortunately, I don't have one.
                          Building AR's lately it's been a "what you can get your hands on" affair.
                          I've used UTG bipods...and you're right Ernie. Issues...but mine work...for the most part.
                          As long as they aren't collapsing during use, I can pretty much deal with minor deployment/retraction issues.

                          pighunter, I understand what you're saying about less to get hung up on brush, but also remember, you aren't facing charging Cape buff or elephants either.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ernie View Post
                            The Harris bi-pod with the notched legs, and the swivel feature works awesome for the money.
                            For a rifle hunter the medium is the all around best.
                            For pure bench the BR version with the same notched legs and swivel feature.
                            There are better bi-pods and you can spend a lot more money, but the Harris will do you right for the money. Be careful of cheap knock offs. Many of them end up having issues-I would suggest buy once/cry once.
                            do you fold the legs forward or rearward ?

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                            • #29
                              Always forward for me

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ernie View Post
                                Always forward for me
                                And for me too.
                                You push forward slightly when you're shooting. Keeps legs from collapsing.
                                Bipods facing rearward folded up, REALLY get tangled up.

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