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  • DakotaMan
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    From Sarge01 {"I shot with a 25-06 with a Barnes Triple shok shot through both shoulders. Deer didn't even flinch, no blood or hair and after circling in the dense laurel I found the buck about 150 yards from where it was shot."}

    Sarge, I've seen that with the Barnes. The only ones I've shot didn't expand well in the 25-06. Just about any bullet will kill a deer. The only risk with some bullets is that they blow up the front quarters pretty bad if they expand too much. My favorite for the 25-06 is the 100g Hornady Interbond with the lead tip. I've rarely had one wiggle once hit with that bullet. Also be aware that monometal bullets don't expand much at all at ranges where bullet velocity gets reduced to less than about 2000 fps. They tend to leave a wound somewhat similar to a hypodermic needle if you are ever lucky enough to recover game hit with them.

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  • FirstBubba
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    [QUOTE=PigHunter;n715507]
    Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post

    Bubba, Midway USA has the Federal 90 grain HP load for $ 0.80 per round if you purchase 250 at one time. I suggest scraping up the funds and getting it while you can.
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018433318

    The 90 grain Fusion load is $1.15 per round
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1017694010?pid=539516
    I'll just keep spending on reloading supplies. I built a screen on my shooting bench so I can recover all my brass.
    Hunting, I couldn't care less if I recover the brass or not.
    So far, the AR slings all the brass inside my box blind. I'm just waiting for a hot brass down the collar! LOL!

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by PigHunter View Post

    Remington Core Lokt factory loads have also performed well for me. I've got several boxes of Hornady Interlocks that I'm going to load and try in the .30-06 and .308 and hoping to get good performance.
    Never had a problem with Rem Core-Lokt. I've probably shot a ton of them at deer, hogs, trees, armadillos, etc, etc.

    I've never had a problem with plain Jane old Sierra 130 gr BTSP for my .270 Win. Good stuff, Maynard!

    I haven't tried it on "peer & digs" yet, but I'm really excited to try these Speer 90 gr "Gold Dot" bullets in my 6.8mm. They're killer on paper! LOL!

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  • Sarge01
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    I really don't know a lot about factory ammo except what I read in the catalogs. I load everything I shoot and over the last 50 years I have found what bullets work and what bullets don't work. Like I said before the Nosler Accubonds have been the best bullets for me in accuracy and results on deer when shot. My next bullet that I have used with a lot of success is the plain old Hornady Interlock, it has been around for many many years. The Accubnds hold together just a little better but I don't hesitate to use either of them on deer. Years ago I used the Winchester ballistic silver tips the project they did with Nosler with success but decided to go with a stronger bullet.

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  • PigHunter
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    [QUOTE=FirstBubba;n715498]
    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

    At the moment, jimbo, I CAN still find ammo. There just isn't a wide selection for bullet weight and manufacturer.
    Remington, Federal, American Eagle (Federal) and Hornady make ammo.
    There are also some off brand makers I shy away from like Wolf and TULAmmo.
    ...and I do have dies.
    My AR shoots the Speer 90 grain "Gold Dot" bullet into cloverleafs, but finding 90 grain factory (Federal) ammo is nearly impossible.
    When I can find it, I buy Remington, Hornady or Federal ammo, shoot it up and reload the brass.
    Bubba, Midway USA has the Federal 90 grain HP load for $ 0.80 per round if you purchase 250 at one time. I suggest scraping up the funds and getting it while you can.
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018433318

    The 90 grain Fusion load is $1.15 per round
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1017694010?pid=539516
    Last edited by PigHunter; 10-04-2019, 11:55 AM.

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  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

    I was in Michigan and shot a 10 pt and the guy came over and helped me drag it to his house to clean it up. He showed me a video of a big deer he shot a day earlier - yes they tape them by the bait pile which is made up of several dump truck loads of bait, and give them names. Anyway, he shot it with a 30-06 220gr Win Silvertips. Tracked it for a mile and never saw it. So much for Silvertips. I use CoreLokt by Remington and can not remember ever loosing a deer or bear.
    Remington CoreLokt factory loads have also performed well for me. I've got several boxes of Hornady Interlocks that I'm going to load and try in the .30-06 and .308 and hoping to get good performance.

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  • jhjimbo
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    Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post
    I have bullets I like. Bullets i don't like. Bullets I won't buy because I consider them too expensive. Bullets I'd like to buy but they're too expensive. (Nosler 85 gr .277, $35/box of 50!)

    I really don't think it matters "which" bullet/caliber you shoot, "Murphy's Law" will/can kick in at any moment, leaving us tracking, or trying to track a wounded/missed(?) game animal.
    There are tons that can go wrong between the sear slip and the bullet strike.

    If you shoot a game animal and are unable to recover it, don't tell me it was the bullet, or the caliber, or the ammo brand! You'll never know.
    I was in Michigan and shot a 10 pt and the guy came over and helped me drag it to his house to clean it up. He showed me a video of a big deer he shot a day earlier - yes they tape them by the bait pile which is made up of several dump truck loads of bait, and give them names. Anyway, he shot it with a 30-06 220gr Win Silvertips. Tracked it for a mile and never saw it. So much for Silvertips. I use CoreLokt by Remington and can not remember ever loosing a deer or bear.

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  • FirstBubba
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    I have bullets I like. Bullets i don't like. Bullets I won't buy because I consider them too expensive. Bullets I'd like to buy but they're too expensive. (Nosler 85 gr .277, $35/box of 50!)

    I really don't think it matters "which" bullet/caliber you shoot, "Murphy's Law" will/can kick in at any moment, leaving us tracking, or trying to track a wounded/missed(?) game animal.
    There are tons that can go wrong between the sear slip and the bullet strike.

    If you shoot a game animal and are unable to recover it, don't tell me it was the bullet, or the caliber, or the ammo brand! You'll never know.

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  • FirstBubba
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    [QUOTE=jhjimbo;n715454]
    Originally posted by PigHunter View Post

    Bubba, so far so good with the .300BO in my rifles. I've killed one buck when I was shooting a supersonic factory load and one with a subsonic factory load. Both were neck shots. I had one doe run off and apparently survive a subsonic shoulder hit. (Caught her on camera weeks later)

    I keep one upper sighted in for the subsonic and another upper sighted in for the supersonic handload I'm now using. Both with the suppressor attached are easy on the ears and not cumbersome in a blind nor sneaking through the woods.

    Due to your comments, I took a close look at the 6.8 but ended up with the .300BO because of being able to use standard 5.56 magazines and BCG's.[/QU

    Bubba, Always get the rifle you can get or make ammo for. First rule of firearms.
    At the moment, jimbo, I CAN still find ammo. There just isn't a wide selection for bullet weight and manufacturer.
    Remington, Federal, American Eagle (Federal) and Hornady make ammo.
    There are also some off brand makers I shy away from like Wolf and TULAmmo.
    ...and I do have dies.
    My AR shoots the Speer 90 grain "Gold Dot" bullet into cloverleafs, but finding 90 grain factory (Federal) ammo is nearly impossible.
    When I can find it, I buy Remington, Hornady or Federal ammo, shoot it up and reload the brass.

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  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by Sarge01 View Post

    I checked the Outfitter ammo out when it first came out but soon forgot about it because I don't shoot copper bullets. The only experience I had with a copper bullet was a buck I shot with a 25-06 with a Barnes Triple shok shot through both shoulders. Deer didn't even flinch, no blood or hair and after circling in the dense laurel I found the buck about 150 yards from where it was shot. When I shoot deerwith my 308 or 300WSM with Nosler Accubonds or Hornady Interlocks they go down on the spot, have never had one take a step shot through the shoulders with my Accubonds or Interlocks. I tell people they run like hell for about a half of step straight down.
    Well Sarge, in over two decades, I've never lost an animal shot with a Barnes bullet. But once shot a buck with a factory loaded Remington CoreLokt that traveled across a creek and up a hill before expiring about 200 yards away. The .30-06 150 grain pierced both lungs at 40 yards, blowing lung material all over the tree that had been behind. Sometimes stuff just happens.

    Not that I'm discounting your son's experiences, but I plan to continue to hunt with the .300 BLK. The one failure I've had was entirely my fault and was poor shot placement using subsonic ammo. Just do a web search and you will see review after review testifying that the cartridge is adequate for deer within its range. It's all about shot placement and bullet choice.

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  • Sarge01
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
    New line of Hornady ammo to try out. Nickel case, sealed bullet and primer. I like nickel cases for ease of extraction and corrosion resistance. Lead free, tipped GMX bullet at 2600 fps. 200 yd zero and 9" low at 300 yds. Not the fastest but it will do.
    I checked the Outfitter ammo out when it first came out but soon forgot about it because I don't shoot copper bullets. The only experience I had with a copper bullet was a buck I shot with a 25-06 with a Barnes Triple shok shot through both shoulders. Deer didn't even flinch, no blood or hair and after circling in the dense laurel I found the buck about 150 yards from where it was shot. When I shoot deerwith my 308 or 300WSM with Nosler Accubonds or Hornady Interlocks they go down on the spot, have never had one take a step shot through the shoulders with my Accubonds or Interlocks. I tell people they run like hell for about a half of step straight down.

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  • Sarge01
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    [QUOTE=jhjimbo;n715454]
    Originally posted by PigHunter View Post

    Bubba, so far so good with the .300BO in my rifles. I've killed one buck when I was shooting a supersonic factory load and one with a subsonic factory load. Both were neck shots. I had one doe run off and apparently survive a subsonic shoulder hit. (Caught her on camera weeks later)

    I keep one upper sighted in for the subsonic and another upper sighted in for the supersonic handload I'm now using. Both with the suppressor attached are easy on the ears and not cumbersome in a blind nor sneaking through the woods.

    Due to your comments, I took a close look at the 6.8 but ended up with the .300BO because of being able to use standard 5.56 magazines and BCG's.[/QU

    Bubba, Always get the rifle you can get or make ammo for. First rule of firearms.
    My Son-in-law had a 300BO which I loaded for both sonic and subsonic and after 4 crippled deer he didn't recover he got rid of it and got a .223.

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  • jhjimbo
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    [QUOTE=PigHunter;n715451]

    Bubba, so far so good with the .300BO in my rifles. I've killed one buck when I was shooting a supersonic factory load and one with a subsonic factory load. Both were neck shots. I had one doe run off and apparently survive a subsonic shoulder hit. (Caught her on camera weeks later)

    I keep one upper sighted in for the subsonic and another upper sighted in for the supersonic handload I'm now using. Both with the suppressor attached are easy on the ears and not cumbersome in a blind nor sneaking through the woods.

    Due to your comments, I took a close look at the 6.8 but ended up with the .300BO because of being able to use standard 5.56 magazines and BCG's.[/QU

    Bubba, Always get the rifle you can get or make ammo for. First rule of firearms.

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  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post
    I suppose you .300BO is working out really well.
    Well, I'm immensely pleased with my 6.8mm also. Unfortunately, the ammo thing is a bummer.
    I think if Rem had gotten the chamber correct the first time, it would have been more popular than the Grendle and the Black Out.
    ...but we'll never know now! Will we? LOL!
    Bubba, so far so good with the .300BO in my rifles. I've killed one buck when I was shooting a supersonic factory load and one with a subsonic factory load. Both were neck shots. I had one doe run off and apparently survive a subsonic shoulder hit. (Caught her on camera weeks later)

    I keep one upper sighted in for the subsonic and another upper sighted in for the supersonic handload I'm now using. Both with the suppressor attached are easy on the ears and not cumbersome in a blind nor sneaking through the woods.

    Due to your comments, I took a close look at the 6.8 but ended up with the .300BO because of being able to use standard 5.56 magazines and BCG's.

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  • FirstBubba
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    I suppose you .300BO is working out really well.
    Well, I'm immensely pleased with my 6.8mm also. Unfortunately, the ammo thing is a bummer.
    I think if Rem had gotten the chamber correct the first time, it would have been more popular than the Grendle and the Black Out.
    ...but we'll never know now! Will we? LOL!

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