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I think a 300 or 338 win mag are American Classics and can't be beat by the little short Mags. What do you think? Its good for

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  • r344
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    I shoot a 338 Win Mag housed in a Mossberg 4X4 in Walnut. Used it to get a nice bison in Montana last December. Also have a Ruger Hawkeye Walnut in 300 Ruger Compact Mag. Sold my Model 77 in 300 Win Mag to get the Hawkeye. same performance but lighter and shorter while climbing up the hill. Got a record bighorn ram with it in Texas 2012. I like them both.

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  • Pecos Flats
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    You are absolutely correct in your assessment of the .338 & .300 Winchester Magnums. The 30.06 is a great cartridge also.
    All things are relative when comparing cartridges. There is no argument that the .338 hits haredr than a .300 which hits harder than the 30.06. It is just good old fashion physics.
    The short magnums have their place and will keep up with the other magnums until you start pushing the heavy for caliber bullets. When that happens, the great American classics are packin' more freight. Research points that out.
    In other words, a 180 or 200 grain bullet fired from the short magnum will not, cannot, and does not have the same ballistic power as the full size magnums.
    Despite the masses who will argue, it was never designed to outdo the big magnums. But rather offer magnum like performance in a compact case fitted into a more compact rifle.
    Like I said, they have their place.
    I have a battery of .338 win. mags, .300 win. mags, 7mm rem. mags, and one 30.06.
    If I were to have to give up all but one caliber, I would keep the .338 winnie.
    It will do anything I need it to do on this continent, from whitetail to big bears.
    In forty-years of hunting, I have yet to interview any critter that complained of being "over kill" from my .338.

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  • ishawooa
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    The short mags represent a scant fraction of an inch shorter bolt stroke. This equates to a slightly shorter rifle with the same length barrel as a standard mag but with less performance especially with heavier bullets. Oddly enough we once weighed about 8 short mag rifles of various brands and calibers and the weighed about a dozen standard mags again of several brands and calibers. The weight difference was maginal. I decided to leave some of my junk from my pockets at home and stick with what I know...the old standard magnums and one Ultra.

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  • Beekeeper
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    The short mags can be had in a shorter, handier rifle. They don't really offer any improvement in ballistics.

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  • jay
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    IMHO, the short mags don't buy you anything so I stick with the old standbys.

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  • bomberpride
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    Good calibers but I think they are both to big for deer. But after deer They are a good caliber

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  • Jim in Mo
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    I think the old mags are better because they will shoot heavier (longer) bullets faster than the shorts do. More case capacity.

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  • Chris Carpenter
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    i like the Marlin 1895 .45/70 lever action and the browning blr in .325 short mag

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  • kolbster
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    300 and 338 might be good but its hard to get any better then a 30-06

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