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Does one really need to shoot the hottest load that can be stuffed into a cartridge case to cleanly harvest a game animal?

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  • #16
    No, but you should never use the minimum load either.

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    • #17
      NO of course, My 06 liked middle of the row.
      My .308 a little higher than center.
      .300 Win. I push "book" high but she like's it and I've got the B.O.S.S on it.

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      • #18
        hjohn429 there is nothing wrong with the bottom load in the book if your gun shoots it well, I have a 788 REM in 243 that shoots like a dream as long as I dont take it to the top load.

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        • #19
          In no way does it need to. I've found best accuracy comes about 3/4 to near max of loading manuals suggested loads, then fine tuning in 1/2 grains. They all fall dead. I've never bought into the Roy Weatherby camp that speed alone kills. And this man didat one point say that.

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          • #20
            Beekeeper

            Tell me my Brother, why should I lower my ability to yours, when in fact you should be asking not just why but how I do what I do!

            Should I shoot between the targets and be penalized as a miss and not win the Regional Championship or shoot the ground at 6 feet out and say I missed my game. Where not playing golf here so why should I handicap myself just to please you!

            And as far as Dangerous Game, I tweak and fine tune my loads for maximum performance and never had a load or case failure in competition or hunting big game!

            Hunting critters, I’ll reload the casings to the very last safe reloadable use!

            Beekeeper, you crack me up

            Go have a "Glass of Ice Tea" on me!

            Don't like beer unless I'm in the mood for it and if so only one will do!

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            • #21
              PS
              I never wounded a big game animal in my life, but a many times I have handed my rifle to the ones that did!

              Go figure!

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              • #22
                O' this is just to funny!

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                • #23
                  breath..... man...... BREATH YOUR TURNING BLUE IN THE FACE!

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                  • #24
                    Only if you want to wear out your rifle and possibly damage it and yourself. I do have a friend who only owns the fastest calibers possible, (300 ultra mag, 220 swift, 204 ruger, etc..) and his opinion is "if you owned a Ferrari would you drive it in 1st?" Maybe he has a point.....

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                    • #25
                      Clay,

                      Being a true southern gentleman, I have but one response to you Sir, one which my Grandfather and Father took great pains to instill an understanding of early on. "One does not get into a braying match with a J A C K A S S !

                      Also, my breathing is fine and my face is it's normal healthy color. Thank you for the concern...

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                      • #26
                        Beekeeper I aplaude you sir on being a true gentleman.

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                        • #27
                          Definitely not. You can take a deer just fine in most timber hunting conditions with a slow moving hunk of lead in something like a 30-30 or .35 Remington. That being said, I am a speed seeker. I like my varmint hunting bullets (not deer bullets) to be as FAST as I can very accurately shoot. My first love was a .220 Swift. It wasn't a testosterone urge... it was the fact that I could aim at a prairie dog's chest and hit it out to 300 yards with no trouble. The fast flat shooting bullet took most of the guesswork out of the wind and trajectory caluclations. I would have been lucky to hit one out of 10 at 300 yards with a 30-30. I now shoot a 25-06 and find that it shoots at its highest accuracy level near maximum load speed. I use the high velocity to give me an edge on varmints and long range deer. I still slow them down on timber deer to avoid blowing up meat and getting too much deflection on brush. I will never knock a fellow hunter for carrying a 30-30 in the timber and I won't knock a fellow varminter that seeks to break the 5000fps barrier on his project rifle.

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                          • #28
                            No!

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                            • #29
                              No!

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