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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by RazzRJB View Post
    Hey First Bubba, believe it or not, I got it from eBay. And there were quite a few people selling them to choose from. I sent the seller a message before I ordered it to confirm that it was original. I was told a long time ago that you can find anything on eBay. Just to test that theory, I tried to find a "Geiger Counter" & I actually found 2 of them for sale. Well, thanks again for your help & happy shooting & fixing guns!
    Good for you my friend, it doesn't matter where it came from as long as it works! 😃!
    ...and don't be a stranger!

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  • RazzRJB
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    Hey First Bubba, believe it or not, I got it from eBay. And there were quite a few people selling them to choose from. I sent the seller a message before I ordered it to confirm that it was original. I was told a long time ago that you can find anything on eBay. Just to test that theory, I tried to find a "Geiger Counter" & I actually found 2 of them for sale. Well, thanks again for your help & happy shooting & fixing guns!

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  • fitch270
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    Originally posted by dewman View Post
    Good job FB !! I wish we all could take a cue from you and just try to help people fix or do what the asker wishes. Wish I could give you a plus 1.
    Ditto this, nice work FB!

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by dewman View Post
    Good job FB !! I wish we all could take a cue from you and just try to help people fix or do what the asker wishes. Wish I could give you a plus 1.
    Even a blind sow can find an acorn if she roots around long enough. 🙂!

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  • dewman
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    Good job FB !! I wish we all could take a cue from you and just try to help people fix or do what the asker wishes. Wish I could give you a plus 1.

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by RazzRJB View Post
    Hey FirstBubba,
    I know it's been a while but, the part finally came in today. My wife has been pissed at me because I was expecting it sooner so my shotgun has been taking up space on my dining room table. Well, I just got finished putting it back together & it works like a charm! I'm sure I would have figured it out eventually, but you helped make it go faster & smoother. Much appreciation!
    Interesting Razz! If you don't mind, where did you get the part?

    The last M12 part I bought was an "action slide lock". It's the little button behind the trigger guard you press to unlock the action.
    Buying one isn't the problem! The problem is, it has to be hand fitted to the gun!
    Not hard, it just means gently stoning the part, then reinstalling it until it works correctly.

    You have to partially disassemble the fire group, then, the screw that holds the part in place is a left hand thread.

    Love them old M12's!

    p s. - Congratulations! Glad I could help!
    Last edited by FirstBubba; 08-18-2020, 08:24 PM.

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  • RazzRJB
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    Hey FirstBubba,
    I know it's been a while but, the part finally came in today. My wife has been pissed at me because I was expecting it sooner so my shotgun has been taking up space on my dining room table. Well, I just got finished putting it back together & it works like a charm! I'm sure I would have figured it out eventually, but you helped make it go faster & smoother. Much appreciation!

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by RazzRJB View Post
    Yeah, I understand that. I just wanted to keep it authentic because of its age.
    By all means. I do the same thing.

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  • RazzRJB
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    Yeah, I understand that. I just wanted to keep it authentic because of its age.

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  • FirstBubba
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    I've rebuilt (consists of adding missing and worn out parts) several M12's.
    I understand wanting original parts, but reman parts work just fine.

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  • RazzRJB
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    Well, I found the part on eBay & the seller told me that it's an original part. Not a remanufactured part. And I got it for a good price. $23.32 including tax & shipping & I should have it in a week or so. So far, so good.

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  • RazzRJB
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    Thank you FirstBubba. You are very right ... everything that's happened up to where I noticed that the part is gone, really has no bearing on what I do from here. I've found a few of them online & I'm just trying to find one that's original instead of a remanufactured one. My quest continues! I will get it working right again ... I don't & won't give up! I'll eventually let you know how this story ends.

    Thanks again.

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  • FirstBubba
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    RazzRJB, I don't guess it makes much difference why it's missing. LOL! Because it isn't attached, I've had them just "fall" out unnoticed.
    If you don't "know" it's supposed to be there, it isn't hard to miss, until it "isn't" there.

    Don't know where you are, but I would suggest using Nu-Line guns. They are very good at making sure you get the correct part.
    I think the parts are pretty much interchangable except for gauge. If your gun is 12 gauge, be certain your replacement part is for a 12 gauge gun.

    Again, good luck.

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  • RazzRJB
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    Ok, so here's the strange part of this whole situation I'm in ... Now that I think back about taking my shotgun apart while watching the video, I thought, hmmm, I guess my gun doesn't have that part ... "cartridge cutoff" because I didn't remove that part. Now the last time I used my shotgun was quite some time ago because it's old & it was left to me by my grandfather years ago. It worked fine back when I used it last & I've NEVER taken it apart before. So how that part is just missing is nothing but a complete mystery to me. So, now I guess I have to purchase this part & I've found it at a few different places. I've done my homework & I know that this gun was produced from 1912 to 1963 & mine, according to its serial # was manufactured in 1930. Here's my question ... were there any differences in the "cartridge cutoff" over the years or can I just buy one for a Model 12 & it'll fit my 1930 Model 12? I found one but, before I hit the "pay" button I wanna make sure it'll fit my Shotgun. I'll be watching for your replys. Thanks again for all of your input. I'm gonna get this damn thing working come hell or high water!!

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  • RazzRJB
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    Thank you, FirstBubba. That is definitely a part that I removed. I'm going to tackle the problem tomorrow & I'll let you know if I was able to fix it. Thanks again.

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