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  • #31
    Originally posted by DakotaMan View Post

    Bubba... this is prophetic! It could be said about just about any cartridge we know of. When you take a good bullet, a good scope, a good barrel, a good bedding job and a good shooter, they can all be pretty accurate.

    The one differentiator for me has been "speed". I've shot a lot of running coyotes, foxes, deer and antelope in my lifetime and I moved to a 25-06 over 50 years ago for the low recoil and high velocity to make running shots much more predictable. As much as I like all these other cartridges, that one still provides an edge for me for these hunting applications. I'm now taking notice that the 6PPC has something unique too... inherent precision and I think that will be interesting to me as well.
    Pretty much, D'Man.
    We all have our reasons for our cartridge selections.
    Honestly? I started with a .270 Win because my cousin had one. I literally fell in love with the rifle and never touched it!
    It was the first bolt action rifle I ever saw. Kid like, I had read Jack O'Connor and was enamored by the .270.
    I could have been a .30-06 fanatic like most of the folks I grew up hunting with.
    I was offered a Win M70 .243 Win at a store when a 14 year old kid could still purchase a rifle if he had the money. (the store owner knew my dad!)

    I was determined to have a .270 because NOBODY I hunted with had one! LOL!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PigHunter View Post

      For me, this topic has become more interesting with you mentioning the 6mm ARC..
      The ARC is an interesting cartridge too and, for me, the best of the AR options for all around shooting flexibility. It can be quite accurate in the right rifle too but it is tough making an AR shoot in the 0.1s consistently. One of my next projects will be to build an AR with a Krieger barrel to see how tight I can get it to shoot. Right now, I'm shooting a re-purposed 6mm CM burned out barrel with a custom cartridge I made that is like an ARC but has a body length .020" longer for a little more powder. It shoots around 0.7" groups but that is more indicative of the worn out barrel I'm using rather than the cartridge itself.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by fitch270 View Post
        Why doesn't everyone own a 6PPC?

        Because I already own two .243 Winchester rifles.
        Ironic that you posted this Fitch. The second most accurate rifle I've ever shot has been my brother's .243. It is a stock Tikka T3 that just drills them in the same hole all day. It is also very FUN to shoot. My best to you with yours. I'll bet you are having fun.

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        • #34
          For anyone interested, I found this resource on the 6mm ARC

          The Hornady 6mm ARC | Midsouth Shooters (midsouthshooterssupply.com)

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          • #35
            Originally posted by DakotaMan View Post

            Ironic that you posted this Fitch. The second most accurate rifle I've ever shot has been my brother's .243. It is a stock Tikka T3 that just drills them in the same hole all day. It is also very FUN to shoot. My best to you with yours. I'll bet you are having fun.
            Quiet so far this morning, just one doe spotted. Mornings on the hill can be that way, usually if deer are around we see them right off the bat. Evenings tend to be more predictable, at least in the early season. She did fill her tag Sunday morning last year on day two. Had it dressed and hanging in time to make it to church at 9:00 am.


            I’d like to be able to try out all kinds of different rifles and chamberings but simply don’t have the funds, time or opportunities to do so. With things being the way they are now I’m more inclined to keep inventory streamlined anyway. No big thing, it’s all good.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by dewman View Post
              Let's have a little historical perspective here. When the 6ppc came out it was fine for benchrest where small groups were the goal. But American hunters wanted power power POWER! And SPEED! Magnums baby! Factory ammo at the time was Federal,Remington, & Winchester. Others were around but trust and loyalty not widely established. The Creedmoor(s) arrive with all the tech advances deployed in their development and all the options they provide. Even the Walmart scopes of now beat the pants off some of the better known made decades ago and judged fantastic.There also isn't decades of Rem 742's , rebarreled Jap Arisakas and others with their garage cobbled barrels floating around to knock their mojo down a notch. I often think what if some of the early rounds, perhaps 6mmRem or 257 Roberts, were introduced today with heavy for caliber bullets, special twists, the best ammo available, with the best rifles produced chambered in them.
              And for the record get this through your thick skulls. PH NEVER SAID THE 6.5WAS BEST! ONLY IT WAS HIS BEST HE OWNS. Stop looking to start arguments and READ was gets written.
              Agree cheap scope are better now days. But these guys think they can slay at 500 plus yard. With an optic they have never shot that far with. And not wanting to argue I just have a habit of poking the bear a little .

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              • #37
                Wannabe’s get very irritating…at the same time I get a morbid pleasure meeting them at the range, or any place where I can listen to them expose themselves.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Milldawg View Post
                  Agree cheap scope are better now days. But these guys think they can slay at 500 plus yard. With an optic they have never shot that far with. And not wanting to argue I just have a habit of poking the bear a little .
                  It's all good with me, I like poking too. Otherwise wouldn't have brought up the 6.5 CM on this thread

                  But I've learned something about the 6mm's via this discussion.

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                  • #39
                    Sometimes it is kind of fun to poke the bear....

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ernie View Post
                      Wannabe’s get very irritating…at the same time I get a morbid pleasure meeting them at the range, or any place where I can listen to them expose themselves.
                      Yes sir. Same here I’m not a long range shooter. But I would say I’m a very competent shooter for practical hunting distances with my rifles. It just amazes me what people don’t know and think they know about ballistics. I also keep picture proof in my phone that usually shuts them up. And I don’t seek to be argumentative it bothers me when people spread incorrect information as gospel. But like I said neither one will go shooting Benjamin’s with me.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by PigHunter View Post

                        It's all good with me, I like poking too. Otherwise wouldn't have brought up the 6.5 CM on this thread

                        But I've learned something about the 6mm's via this discussion.
                        Agree learned more about than I ever would have on my own.

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                        • #42
                          Simple answer, the .22-250 can be just as accurate, is much more available, easily reloadable, and is versatile enough to not only be a prairie dog and varmint rifle, but serve admirably as a deer rifle.
                          I should have written: More available in normal times, which we may never see again.

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                          • #43
                            I seriously doubt the 22-250 is just as accurate...
                            There is a long line of serious competitors who would seriously disagree with your statement.
                            Many cartridges have tried to knock the king off his throne (100/200 BR game) without avail.
                            The 6 PPC has never been about factory ammo

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ernie View Post
                              I seriously doubt the 22-250 is just as accurate...
                              There is a long line of serious competitors who would seriously disagree with your statement.
                              Many cartridges have tried to knock the king off his throne (100/200 BR game) without avail.
                              The 6 PPC has never been about factory ammo
                              Ernie, with all due respect, most folks on here aren't concerned with MOA (minute of angle). Their concern is MOD (minute of deer)! LOL!
                              Most .22-250 Rem rifles I've seen may not meet bench rest requirements, but they will darn sure destroy a coyote at 200 yards. Muy pronto!

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                              • #45
                                I am not disagreeing with your statement at all!
                                The PPC will do everything you said in your post as well.

                                I was only disagreeing with crm's statement about the 22-250 being just as accurate as the PPC.

                                About any modern rifle that is chambered in a cartridge legal for big game (Varies from state to state) is capable of MOD on deer and capable of killing a coyote at 200 yards.
                                The biggest handicap for this kind of hunting is NOT the gun, but rather the one shooting it.

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