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    Got a young friend who bought a M1 Garand in .30-06.

    He was told to only shoot "mil-surp" ammo as modern ammo was too hot and could damage his gun.

    1) "IF" the gun is mechanically sound, shouldn't it be able to handle any factory ammo on the market?

    2)is there an "after market", adjustable gas piston that would allow the gun to handle hotter loads?

  • #2
    The Garand operating rod and gas system can be damaged by hot loads. I haven't used hot loads in mine and don't plan to. Load manuals sometimes have special sections for the Garand. My loads have always been within the recommended charts.

    Here's some answers to your questions in this Gun Digest article:

    M1 Garand Ammo: What Should You Shoot in Your M1? | Gun Digest

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    • #3
      pighunter, I found the same article and forwarded the link to the young man.
      He's in his early 20's and has a liking for older (WW I & II) military arms.
      Good kid.
      Thanx!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post
        pighunter, I found the same article and forwarded the link to the young man.
        He's in his early 20's and has a liking for older (WW I & II) military arms.
        Good kid.
        Thanx!
        Bubba, my best advice is to shoot quality handloads in the rifle. I use 180gr B-tips over 4064 for mine and may hunt with it a time or two this Fall.

        Here's the Hogdgon data:
        m1-final-data.pdf (hodgdon.com)

        Here's an article on one guy's search for a good load:
        M1 Garand Handloads | Handloader Magazine

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PigHunter View Post

          Bubba, my best advice is to shoot quality handloads in the rifle. I use 180gr B-tips over 4064 for mine and may hunt with it a time or two this Fall.

          Here's the Hogdgon data:
          m1-final-data.pdf (hodgdon.com)

          Here's an article on one guy's search for a good load:
          M1 Garand Handloads | Handloader Magazine
          Right now, this young man doesn't reload and I don't have a set of dies. If he continues on the road he's on, I can see him reloading in the future.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post

            Right now, this young man doesn't reload and I don't have a set of dies. If he continues on the road he's on, I can see him reloading in the future.
            Sounds like a great opportunity to pass on knowledge. If you get along with him, have him buy a set of dies and components then teach how it's done. You could even provide some of the components.

            Life's too short and you should be passing on what you know while you can. I've never seen a U-Haul trailer hooked to a hearse so maybe you could give him some of your surplus loading equipment.

            Besides, you too could have some fun shooting that Garand!
            Last edited by PigHunter; 05-06-2021, 05:30 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PigHunter View Post

              Sounds like a great opportunity to pass on knowledge. If you get along with him, have him buy a set of dies and components then teach how it's done. You could even provide some of the components.

              Life's too short and you should be passing on what you know while you can. I've never seen a U-Haul trailer hooked to a hearse so maybe you could give him some of your surplus loading equipment.

              Besides, you too could have some fun shooting that Garand!
              You're too good!
              I have already helped (instructed?) him assemble his first AR and we have already discussed reloading! LOL!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PigHunter View Post
                The Garand operating rod and gas system can be damaged by hot loads. I haven't used hot loads in mine and don't plan to. Load manuals sometimes have special sections for the Garand. My loads have always been within the recommended charts.

                Here's some answers to your questions in this Gun Digest article:

                M1 Garand Ammo: What Should You Shoot in Your M1? | Gun Digest
                Good article. I always heard 4895 was a powder of choice for the Garand

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PigHunter View Post

                  Bubba, my best advice is to shoot quality handloads in the rifle. I use 180gr B-tips over 4064 for mine and may hunt with it a time or two this Fall.

                  Here's the Hogdgon data:
                  m1-final-data.pdf (hodgdon.com)

                  Here's an article on one guy's search for a good load:
                  M1 Garand Handloads | Handloader Magazine
                  The article said to use the lighter 150gr. I think the Military M-2 was 168gr.
                  They did not mention but I think you should use SB die.
                  Last edited by jhjimbo; 05-07-2021, 02:05 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post

                    The article said to use the lighter 150gr. I think the Military M-2 was 168gr.
                    They did not mention but I think you should use SB die.
                    Some semi autos function just fine with "Full Length" resized brass.
                    Personally, I always use SB dies to resize brass for semi autos.

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                    • #11
                      I seriously doubt the original Garand barrels were manufactured with tight chambers. Mine has digested everything I've fed it over the last 30+ years.

                      Mild loads of IMR 4064 with 180gr B-Tips produce 1 MOA groups from my rifle using the military iron sights. But every rifle is different and another could do better with 4895 and 150gr.

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