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Zimmerman - Not Guilty 10:00PM, 7/13/13

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  • #16
    Zimmerman is guilty of being an idiot. If ever there was a reason for CCL background checks this is it. He gives us all a bad name.

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    • #17
      People in the media are asking what Trayvon Martin did that was wrong, and the politically correct answer is "nothing," as though all he had done was walk the street with his little bag of skittles and tea.
      But the jury found that he was committing a forcible felony on the person of George Zimmerman that led to justifiable homicide.

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      • #18
        As mad as some people are about that, I feel that it was the right decision based on the evidence.

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        • #19
          If it was a "gated", meaning "fenced in", community, isn't the purpose to keep the "general public" from wandering the streets?
          If the majority of thefts in a gated community were committed by non-resident black males, is it not common sense to at the very least "watch" non-resident black males? Why would you be concerned with other "groups"?
          All Martin had to do was explain the situation, or claim he was lost. Instead, he decides to confront and assault Zimmerman.
          Rionda claimed Martin was shot through "...no fault of his own..."!
          I beg to differ. There's tons Martin could have done differently.

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          • #20
            Florida has the right to carry law. What would of happen to Zimmerman with this same scenario if it took place in New York City or Washington DC where there is no right to carry?

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            • #21
              Gary - What would have happened in New York actually DID happen thirty years ago to Bernard Goetz, "the subway vigilante."
              Goetz shot four young black men who were demanding money from him on a New York subway. He was acquitted on the grounds of self defense, but convicted of unlawfully possessing a concealed firearm.
              He served almost a year in prison.
              The court basically found that he was right to use the gun, but wrong to have it.

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              • #22
                Living in WA, Ah haven't seen a black person in years.

                Butt Ah used to teach Maf inna inner-city black high school back in Allabammy.

                This isn't about race.

                It's about stupidity.

                "Against Stupidity, yet even the very gods themselves contend in vain." - Homer

                Those two attracted each other across Time and Space, probably because of matching room-temperature IQs and a desire to move up in the ranks of people with violent tendencies.

                Now the event is the seed for money-making activities involving people who were never involved in it in the first place!

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                • #23
                  OK, Math.

                  Mah teaching experience includes Math, grades 8-13, and Ah yousta be an Associate Perfessor of Physics.

                  It doesn't take me long to conjure a fairly accurate IQ estimate

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                  • #24
                    bayouwoof,
                    How many grades does your high school have?
                    It looks from your teaching experience like they have 5 years?

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                    • #25
                      I figured that was the verdict, didn't see too much damning evidence. I'm glad they didn't riot yet!

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                      • #26
                        Ye kin count!

                        Actually, Ah taught overseas as well.

                        Worldwide, schools are very advanced compared to our public school system.

                        The kind of lax discipline that spawns hoodie types is not tolerated elsewhere.

                        There is none of the "Superfly" or "Shaft in Africa" in evidence.

                        Instead, people compete for class ranking to get admitted to the most prestigious universities in the world.

                        That kind of competition has caused private schools to raise the bar to a point that I found to be mind-boggling.

                        It was easily as advanced as the freshman year of the more challenging universities here, and covered the same general topics, with the exception of the perspective of a foreign country.

                        Discipline problems are unheard of..

                        Ah kind of miss it, but Ah hadda move on to demonstrate thet Ah could do more than just talk about Physical Electronics.

                        Ah still hold the world record for circuit behavior in a not-so-obscure field.

                        And, now that ye have gotten me back to the podium, Ah must make a couple of remarks that logic dictates and evvabuddy seems to have missed.

                        1) Tray wins the Darwin Award.

                        He did something stupider than bringing a knife to a gunfight.

                        He had to know that security guards carry guns.

                        It wuz suicide by wannabe cop.

                        2) As much as I agree with the principles of the acquittal, Zimmerman was guilty as charged, and I believe he knew it.

                        His attorneys gave it to the Prosecutor on a silver platter and The State failed to act on it, for whatever reason...

                        The "wimp factor", remember?

                        The defense argued that Zimmerman had to pull the trigger because he was no fighter.

                        He wuz too pudgy and sluggish and nobuddy wuz about to accuse him of being tough.

                        Zimmerman told the police something to the effect that "those a$$holes always get away", referring to black males.

                        That statement indicates that he was in the required state of mind for Murder 2 at the time of the shooting.

                        Since he could not fight, he carried a loaded gun.

                        Exactly what did he have in mind when he got out of his vehicle to pursue Tray?

                        I shouldn't have to say it, but it could have only ended one way if Tray chose to fight.

                        He had to have intended to shoot in self-defense, thinking it would solve his problems with an "a$$hole" who always got away, and whom he did not expect himself to be able to whup in hand-to-hand combat.

                        He knew it when he picked up his gun before leaving home.

                        So he actually must have been in a depraved state of mind when he began his watch, knowing there wuzza significant probability that he wuz going to shoot somebuddy.

                        If he didn't realize that, he wuz dumber than we all thought.

                        He should have never taken the job.

                        Slam Dunk.

                        A photographer took a photo of Zimmerman's face during a moment when he must have realized whut he had done...

                        I have seen FEAR on people's faces before:

                        Pupils dilated, all facial muscles relaxed, most notably causing the jaw to go slack, open-mouthed.

                        The logic is inescapable.

                        Prosecutors are usually pretty smort, but the state definitely blew this one, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

                        Mebbe it wuz deliberate, Ah dunno!

                        The only way to find out is to see who ends up with the money.

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                        • #27
                          Ye kin count!

                          Actually, Ah taught overseas as well.

                          Worldwide, schools are very advanced compared to our public school system.

                          The kind of lax discipline that spawns hoodie types is not tolerated elsewhere.

                          There is none of the "Superfly" or "Shaft in Africa" in evidence.

                          Instead, people compete for class ranking to get admitted to the most prestigious universities in the world.

                          That kind of competition has caused private schools to raise the bar to a point that I found to be mind-boggling.

                          It was easily as advanced as the freshman year of the more challenging universities here, and covered the same general topics, with the exception of the perspective of a foreign country.

                          Discipline problems are unheard of..

                          Ah kind of miss it, but Ah hadda move on to demonstrate thet Ah could do more than just talk about Physical Electronics.

                          Ah still hold the world record for circuit behavior in a not-so-obscure field.

                          And, now that ye have gotten me back to the podium, Ah must make a couple of remarks that logic dictates and evvabuddy seems to have missed.

                          1) Tray wins the Darwin Award.

                          He did something stupider than bringing a knife to a gunfight.

                          He had to know that security guards carry guns.

                          It wuz suicide by wannabe cop.

                          2) As much as I agree with the principles of the acquittal, Zimmerman was guilty as charged, and I believe he knew it.

                          His attorneys gave it to the Prosecutor on a silver platter and The State failed to act on it, for whatever reason...

                          The "wimp factor", remember?

                          The defense argued that Zimmerman had to pull the trigger because he was no fighter.

                          He wuz too pudgy and sluggish and nobuddy wuz about to accuse him of being tough.

                          Zimmerman told the police something to the effect that "those a$$holes always get away", referring to black males.

                          That statement indicates that he was in the required state of mind for Murder 2 at the time of the shooting.

                          Since he could not fight, he carried a loaded gun.

                          Exactly what did he have in mind when he got out of his vehicle to pursue Tray?

                          I shouldn't have to say it, but it could have only ended one way if Tray chose to fight.

                          He had to have intended to shoot in self-defense, thinking it would solve his problems with an "a$$hole" who always got away, and whom he did not expect himself to be able to whup in hand-to-hand combat.

                          He knew it when he picked up his gun before leaving home.

                          So he actually must have been in a depraved state of mind when he began his watch, knowing there wuzza significant probability that he wuz going to shoot somebuddy.

                          If he didn't realize that, he wuz dumber than we all thought.

                          He should have never taken the job.

                          Slam Dunk.

                          A photographer took a photo of Zimmerman's face during a moment when he must have realized whut he had done...

                          I have seen FEAR on people's faces before:

                          Pupils dilated, all facial muscles relaxed, most notably causing the jaw to go slack, open-mouthed.

                          The logic is inescapable.

                          Prosecutors are usually pretty smort, but the state definitely blew this one, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

                          Mebbe it wuz deliberate, Ah dunno!

                          The only way to find out is to see who ends up with the money.

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                          • #28
                            The fact of homicide was not in dispute, but the defense proved that it was justifiable, in that Zimmerman reasonably believed that deadly force was necessary to prevent imminent serious bodily injury or death to himself. The photographs of Zimmerman's bloody face and head carried a lot of weight.
                            Dr. Michael Baden, a forensic pathologist who was interviewed after the trial, remarked that Zimmerman's wounds were superficial. Nevertheless, the actions that caused those wounds could easily result in a fractured skull, which I believe should be considered a serious bodily injury.

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                            • #29
                              Also, the prosecutors were given a weak hand of cards to play, and they did their best with what they had.
                              The initial investigation disclosed that under Florida law, Zimmerman was immune from prosecution by virtue of the evidence supporting his claim of self defense and the complete absence of proof to the contrary.
                              The chief of police was fired for failure to arrest Zimmerman, but Zimmerman's acquittal would now seem to vindicate him.

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                              • #30
                                Ah would only restate that these people were/are not what you're used to looking at in the morning at breakfast.

                                At best, they were/are at least mildly retarded, and they were/are incapable of "thought."

                                Their behavior indicates that they were both threats to society and it is not surprising that they clashed and one of them ended up dead.

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