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I plan on buying a beginners shotgun and have been looking at the 12g 870 express. I've heard mixed reviews. What are your opi

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  • #16
    JMO~ The New 870 are almost all plastic innerds? Buy Old Used Rem/870 or Win/12 any thing made before 1990.

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    • #17
      thehunter 98.6, do a internet search for reviews on the 870 like I said check this website. The new ones quality is subpar at best. I didn't do my research when I bought mine in 2009 and have regretted buying ever since until two weeks ago when I traded it. The two major complaints are as I stated and they are extremely common complaints. I realize there are some good ones out there but it seems there are far more bad than good. As I mentioned countless times on this site, if Remington spent more money on quality control and less on celebrity promoters (Bret Farve) they could possibly make a quality entry level shotgun. I don't see it happening, they will use their reputation for as long as they can.

      Coffeecupmike, You don't have to believe me but before you jump into it read more reviews. I have nothing against Remington other than their junk status on the 870 express new models only. I would recommend the BPS I have a Winchester SXP I love, a mossburg over 870. Look around for deals on older models that can be had for cheaper and far superior quality.

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      • #18
        Dcast I see what you mean but I've put thousands of rounds through my 870 express(which I recently got) and I haven't had any problems.

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        • #19
          i have an 870 express and there really good guns. they can stand up to years of abuse. overall a good gun

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          • #20
            Thanks everybody, I found a 1992 Wingmaster 12 ga that looks to have hardly been used for $400 at my local shop. It comes with a full choke and 28" barrel. The only curious thing is there is etchiong on the side of the receiver. Does anybody have any ideas of the model.
            I dated it my self using the serial number and post from the gun buyer's guide

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