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What is the best type of round you can use in a handgun, shotgun or rifle for home defense that will do the job? Shot size or t

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  • Safado
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    I just saw a comparison of bird shot to 00 buck on a tv show and was surprised by the effectiveness of bird shot at defensive ranges. I agree with 99explorer that using bird shot will seem less like a Rambo. I have also heard that using handloads can give the wrong impression too!

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  • mike0714
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    Any pistol not in my big safe (I have quick 2 entry safes both bolted to floor and or wall) I have loaded with a rubber round, then snake shot,the third is hollow points or wad cutters. If i need to shoot more than twice or get to a long gun you are dying. That is the way i was shown. If you don't get the message after 2 rounds being fired you ether don't care or are looking for a fight.

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  • 99explorer
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    jimbo - I have no experience with low flash rounds, but I think that the 148-grain lead wadcutter .38 Special load would be more effective than the 158-grain lead round-nose load for defense.
    Handloaders have been seating the .38 Special wadcutter bullet backward in the case with impressive results.

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  • WA Mtnhunter
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    You know, an AR with .223 Varmint Grenade or similar bullet with a frangible jacket and sintered metal core might be just the trick for close range firepower where penetration of walls and the neighborhood houses is not desirable.

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  • Ga hunter
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    #4 buckshot would be my first option for home defense in a shotgun. If not, I bet some #4 turkey loads would be nasty! I've been hearing that a lot of women (not saying men don't use them!) are starting to by AR's for home defense because of the power it has but with low recoil.

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  • FirstBubba
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    You guys are right there.
    At average (?) home defense ranges of 20(+/-) feet, a 12 bore with even small shot is "really" nasty!
    I witnessed my grandfather (early 60's) kill a deer at seven steps with a 16 ga and 7 1/2's!
    A shot column doesn't open up very much at that range! A whole lot like WAM 's Glaser rounds. Actually very little danger of collateral damage. Only draw back is a long gun in close quarters.

    The .22 mag isn't "the" best by any means. My point being people, mostly women, that may shy away from recoil find the little mag manageable. And it's a pretty vicious little round.

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  • Moose1980
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    Federal Hydra-Shock in my .40 S&W. I believe its the round (or used to be) that the FBI use. I know many police departments use it also. Regardless, an FBI agent suggested them to my father years ago as a good stopping round. They shoot very well in my Sig 229. As far as a shotgun, 2 3/4 1 oz rem sluggers. Good enough for deer, good enough for a bad guy is my reasoning.

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  • ITHACASXS
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    I agree with WA concerning #2 or BB loads for the home. In the close confines of your house, waterfowl loads would be vicious and might not blow through walls like buck shot may. My prayer is that it never comes to that, but as a husband and father, I must be prepared.

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  • WA Mtnhunter
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    Glaser Safety slugs in my pocket gun. I would not shoot a handgun at much more than point blank range in self defense anyway. 12 gauge 3" #2 or BB goose loads are might deadly at defensive ranges.

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  • jhjimbo
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    99
    my .38 is a smith mod 36 and not +p so i have been avoiding the hot stuff. I have seen the FBI load around. I have shot the 158gr lead at a stump and i can say i would not want to be on the receiving end.

    Have you used any of the low flash rounds?

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  • 99explorer
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    jimbo - The 158-grain lead round nose .38 Special is rated one of the least effective man-stoppers in that caliber. It was used by large-city police departments for decades.
    The 158-grain lead hollow-point (semi-wadcutter) is rated one of the best. It is known as the FBI load, the Chicago load and the Metro load. The Remington ammo is made from a softer lead, and is therefore more likely to expand than the Winchester loading.

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  • jhjimbo
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    99
    I was thinking the same thing. My 12ga has a bandoleer with misc. 2 3/4 of 6 and 7 1/2 shells.
    Glaser Safety seems to be the choice for home protection.
    FirstBubba
    I did not realize a .22mag would make that good of a round for home use. I also have a .38 smith that i carry sometimes - 158gr lead round nose.
    I was also advised not to use any handloads as that may be looked at as something excessive or something.
    Have not shot my .40s&w glock at night yet so do not know about muzzel flash. I may get some of the reduced flash rounds to try out.

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  • 99explorer
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    There is a school of thought that birdshot is just as effectived as buckshot at close range, and makes the homeowner look less like a Rambo when the law arrives on the scene. Just sayin.'

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  • FirstBubba
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    An older gentleman calls 911 and tells the operator thieves are breaking into his tool shed again. The operator informs the man, "...all our units are busy at this time. Stay in your home and we'll send a unit when it's available."
    About 5 minutes later, the man calls back and tells the operator not to worry about the thieves in his tool shed because he's shot them.
    Within a minute or two several units arrive and catch the two thieves red handed.
    One of the responding officers asks, "I thought you shot those guys! "
    The gentleman replied, "I thought all your units were busy? "

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  • Ontario Honker Hunter
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    Heh, heh! Bubba it's so easy to jerk your chain.

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