I just bought a used Marlin 336A 30-30 and I'm wondering if I should put see through scope mounts on them...I have heard it lifts the scope to high and you can't rest your cheek comfortable on the rifle. Anyone tried them?
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I just bought a used Marlin 336A 30-30 and I'm wondering if I should put see through scope mounts on them...I have heard it lift
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I agree with Clay that 150 grains is all you will need, and it performs better than the heavier bullet- still, check the ballistics, there's a lot of drop in the 30/30 if you have to shoot more than 100 yards, although the energy is still pretty good. The 336 A is a good rifle to shoot, quick and nicely balanced an dependable.
I've always hear that more deer have been killed with
the 30/30 than the rest of the calibers put together.
But now, to answer your question. You made a good choice with the Marlin and the caliber. Don't mess it up by putting see through scope mounts on it. Yes, I know all the old time country boys have them, and yes, they really seem like a great idea, the best of both worlds. The problem is see-throughs are the worst of both worlds, and I know I'll make a lot of people mad by saying that. I started out a long long time ago with a lever gun and see throughs (with a 2.5x scope with a post reticule!). Time has passed that setup by.
See throughs make the scope sit too high- check your cheek weld- that stock should weld to your cheek just below the cheek bone- the bone is your anchor, and you should be looking straight down the barrel, through the sights from that anchor. Almost no scope mounts are low enough to let you do this correctly, let alone see throughs, which put the scope up so high that your "cheek weld" will be along your jaw line at best. You can't shoot well that way. You can shoot, but you can't shoot as well as the rifle will shoot.
Your rifle is configured for open sights- your cheek weld will be great with open sights. The lever gun is prescope technology, and it is handiest without optics. BUT. I believe 100% in optics. And if I had that Marlin, and I was going to use it for everyday hunting, and could afford a scope, I'd put one on it. I'd get a gunsmith to find me the lowest possible quality mounts, and I'd put a good quality scope on it- fixed 6 or less- with a good rapid acquisition reticule (no posts!). If your cheek weld is still too low, get a stick-on cheek pad to bring it up- i have one like this one: http://www.swshotguns.com/html/accessories_html.html
You can also use foam pipe insulation and a roll of duct tape, which I've done, too, or, if you are dressing for style, find a leather cheek pad.
And then I'd sight that sucker in off a sandbag at 50 yards get it dead on, then shoot a few groups at 100 yards, hopefully good ones, then put it through the paces, burn some rounds, shoot some pumpkins, some coffee cans, milk jugs full of water, then clean it real good, check it again from the bench and the sandbag, and be proud to have a good shooting dependable all around rifle.
But nix the see-throughs.
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If you buy a good low powered scope, you won't even need or want to use the irons. Something that cranks down to 2 or even 1 or 1.5 will be perfect. It won't be too much magnification for the close shots. Also, most low magnification scopes have small objective lenses so they can be mounted lower than your average 3-9X40 scopes.
I like to shoot just irons on lever guns, but I have 3, so the Marlin gets a scope, the Winchester 94 is just irons, and the Savage 99 has had a scope on it for years, but I just took it off a month or so ago just because that gun looks so good naked.
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Depends on the area you are hunting, if you are hunting on opening land you must likely want to have a scope. After you get adjusted to it it will come naturaly to you when you bring the gun up. If you are hunting in the thick brush open sites or a very low power scope will work, better off with open sites. 30-30 is know for the "Brush gun" in northern WI. I hunt in northern WI I have a .243, .270, and 7mag with no iron sights, just have to used to your gun. I know this for a fact. My cousin used my .270 and missed a huge buck at a lousy 100 yards, the next day I took the same gun and shot a large 8 at 200 yards. I personaly beleive you have to be comfortable with your gun. Just spend time shooting the gun for every situation, fast draw to leaning against a tree.
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This is a matter of personal preference, but the see-through mounts raise the scope too high for me. I prefer to use a low-mounted, low magnification scope (2x or 3x) for a Marlin 1894 or 336 because I can shoulder the piece quickly and naturally, without adjusting to see through the center of the scope's eyepiece.
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