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Will any short fat magnum cartridge/rifle survive for the next generation to hunt with? If so I'm predicting maybe the .270 WSM

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  • Vincent Favata
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    I will be keeping both my 325wsm rifles. They are off the beaten path but very interesting and effective. Got enough brass for two or even three lifetimes-lol. Some claim it’s hard to find brass but I’ve never found that to be so. Otherwise, there is much good to be said in staying with time tested cartridges . Realistically, it’s been proven over 100 years ago that magnums aren’t even necessary. By the looks of it though, I’m sure more new cartridges will come to market.
    It’s the American way.

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  • DakotaMan
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    Good to see some of these old names again. Looking forward over the next 50 years, I suspect that the growing interest in longer range precision will establish quite a few "long/fats" to make it. Most of the WSMs have a chance and the new 6.5 PRC (a necked down 300 Ruger Compact Magnum) will likely make it too. The Creedmoors are all short/fats and will probably make it for the long haul as well. The are outstanding hunting cartridges and all of them shoot lights out beyond 1000 yards.

    They are so low in recoil and yet so effective, they just might start a trend away from "magnum" cartridges. Don't throw your short/fats away, even if they don't make it. You can reload them and enjoy them for the rest of your life. I chose my 300 Dakota because of its performance and will likely not see a cartridge to beat it for long range precision and knockdown power. I'll be happy with it for the rest of my life. Even when I travel, I have never found the need to buy factory ammo for any of my rifles.

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  • Amflyer
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    There were a lot of "characters." Remember the "har har har" guy? The brothers that supposedly would log in under another's name an post? I think it would be interesting to see all the duplicate and alter-ego accounts back then.

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  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by Ernie View Post
    Old thread revived.
    I don't know anyone in the original thread...Maybe one or two, I kind of blew through it quickly.
    I imagine the PRC is here to stay as is the 300 WSM. In the bench/F-Class Open world the 300 WSM and 7mm SAUM (F-Class only) still have a good following
    I remember some of those members. I joined the site later that year. Blackdawgz was a character.

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  • Ernie
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    Old thread revived.
    I don't know anyone in the original thread...Maybe one or two, I kind of blew through it quickly.
    I imagine the PRC is here to stay as is the 300 WSM. In the bench/F-Class Open world the 300 WSM and 7mm SAUM (F-Class only) still have a good following

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by Milldawg View Post

    I want a ruger number one so bad and I don’t know why. I’d never use it but for some reason it calls to me. Kind of like you gotta have a 30-30 in the safe.
    'dawg, I've been shooting a Ruger No.1 for 40 years now.
    I'm not sure just exactly WHAT there is about a No.1.
    Falling block?
    Single shot?
    Classic lines?
    Note that as many Ruger No.1's there are in the world, you seldom, if ever, see a hunter with one in the field?
    You very seldom see a No.1 on the used gun rack?
    You seldom see a No.1 on a table at a gun show?
    If I had the money, I'd probably have a No.1 in EVERY caliber! LOL!

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  • Milldawg
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    Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post

    pmacc60, I still want a Ruger No.1 (.308 Win) rechambered to .300 H&H and I want the barrel restamped, "Holland's Super .30".
    That's the original cartridge designation.
    I'll never do it, but I still want it! LOL!
    I want a ruger number one so bad and I don’t know why. I’d never use it but for some reason it calls to me. Kind of like you gotta have a 30-30 in the safe.

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  • Milldawg
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    Originally posted by Pmacc60 View Post
    Just kidding you ! Lol but it’s sounds to me like a classic rationalization !
    None taken your we’re correct in calling me on it.

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by Pmacc60 View Post
    Just kidding you ! Lol but it’s sounds to me like a classic rationalization !
    pmacc60, I still want a Ruger No.1 (.308 Win) rechambered to .300 H&H and I want the barrel restamped, "Holland's Super .30".
    That's the original cartridge designation.
    I'll never do it, but I still want it! LOL!

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  • Pmacc60
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    Originally posted by Milldawg View Post
    No shame for me. I haven’t bought it. I entertained the idea but then realized I would never use it. And the round has been around since the 1950’s built by Roy Weatherby himself. It wasn’t commercialized until 2016.
    Just kidding you ! Lol but it’s sounds to me like a classic rationalization !

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by Pmacc60 View Post
    FB the 300 wsm uses about 7to 10grains of powder more than the 30-06 in the same bullet weights. Keeping this in mind the more efficient case design generates more velocity and energy . Not much more in recoil , there is much to appreciated about the WSM , no matter which cal.
    I just have to live with the fact that I'm a "recoil weenie" pmacc60! LOL!

    In the late 70's, I ran about half a box of ammo through a Ruger M77 .458 Win Mag. The first round with much trepidation to say the least.
    That was probably, recoil wise, the biggest shock I ever experienced shooting a rifle. I was all cocked and primed to have that thing knock my hat in the creek!
    Rather than the sharp, bone crushing shock I was expecting, I got a surprisingly heavy "shove".
    My old 870 with 3" ammo had a much more unpleasant recoil.

    I also had a Ruger M77 .300 Win Mag! I'd much rather walk up behind a mare mule and goose her than pull the trigger on that beast again! The recoil was absolutely horrible!

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  • Pmacc60
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    Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post
    I just don't like "Mangrums".
    Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying a "Mangle'em" isn't worthwhile, I just don't like them.
    ...and "Yes.", I've owned a couple.
    In the "recoil" field, I don't find the end result worth the added recoil.
    With the shoulder implant, recoil, left OR right shoulder, is a once unseen, serious consideration.
    FB the 300 wsm uses about 7to 10grains of powder more than the 30-06 in the same bullet weights. Keeping this in mind the more efficient case design generates more velocity and energy . Not much more in recoil , there is much to appreciated about the WSM , no matter which cal.

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  • Milldawg
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    Originally posted by Pmacc60 View Post
    I got to call BS here dawg ! You just posted on a desire to purchase a 6.5 - 300 Weatherby , a trendy , fad of a round as it gets! Shame shame !
    No shame for me. I haven’t bought it. I entertained the idea but then realized I would never use it. And the round has been around since the 1950’s built by Roy Weatherby himself. It wasn’t commercialized until 2016.
    Last edited by Milldawg; 06-16-2020, 12:59 AM.

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  • FirstBubba
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    I just don't like "Mangrums".
    Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying a "Mangle'em" isn't worthwhile, I just don't like them.
    ...and "Yes.", I've owned a couple.
    In the "recoil" field, I don't find the end result worth the added recoil.
    With the shoulder implant, recoil, left OR right shoulder, is a once unseen, serious consideration.

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  • Sarge01
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    I have been shooting a 300WSM since they came out. Mine is super accurate and I can get the same performance as the 300 Win Mag with 6 or 7 grains less powder. I had a 270WSm too but needed it for trading material. It was a shooter too. The WSM are on the same principle as the short bench rest cartridges of some years back. In my area you run into someone every day that shots a 300WSM. Most of the guys that I know that go out west to hunt elk are shooting a 300WSM. I think that 300WSM is here to stay for years to come because it is such a pleasure to shoot and has the power for anything except the really big stuff ( brown bears, grizzly bears) However with a good constructed bullet I feel comfortable hunting in bear country. My Sako A7 really likes Nosler Accubond bullets.

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