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What is the deal with all the talk about tiny calibers and big game? Sure, deer have been killed with a .223 and good shot place

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  • What is the deal with all the talk about tiny calibers and big game? Sure, deer have been killed with a .223 and good shot place

    What is the deal with all the talk about tiny calibers and big game? Sure, deer have been killed with a .223 and good shot placement, but why? Why would I grab my .223 or .244(6mm Rem) When I could reach for my .270, .308, .35 rem, .32 Win Spc., or .30/06? Why use a varmint caliber when I have so many deer calibers? I understand that some people only have one rifle, but most don't. So what is the motivation to go little for something big???

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    And don't tell me that you want something that shoots flatter. If a .270 or .308 or .30/06 doesn't shoot flat enough for you, you should probably give up hunting.

    And if this is about recoil, well...you need to eat a few more venison steaks every week.

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    • #3
      good point. for me, i see it as important to be accurate. i love accuracy. when people ask me what i shot my deer with, i want to be able to tell them i shot it with a .223, or a .22-250. i don't like shooting deer with a big old 300 or a 30-06. i don't see it as necessary. another reason, is so you can teach kids to hunt. most kids wouldnt feel too good shooting a 30-06 once, twice, or even five times. by that time, they won't feel comfortable pulling the trigger because of all of the recoil that they are expecting. they might jerk their heads, be afraid to pull the trigger, etc. being accurate is a good way to teach kids hunting. shooting a smaller bullet teaches them shot placement, and ethical kills. some people don't have the money to own a bunch of rifles. this is my opinion, and the reason why i personally like a smaller caliber on deer.

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      • #4
        i didn't include this. but a kid would rather shoot a smaller gun with less recoil. they feel a lot more comfortable, and confident with their shots. and this isn't only for kids, even adults could have the same problem. they're expecting the recoil, and it screws up their shot. to teach a kid to hunt deer or antelope, etc. i would go with a 22-250, 223, all the way up to about a 25-06. my opinion guys.

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        • #5
          well if you think you need to shoot deer with a 22 caliber gun, so be it. Remember to use deer size bullets not something for coyotes or other little things. Nosler makes a 60 gr partion and Barnes makes 53 gr TSX FB, BOTH OF THESE ARE REAL HUNTING BULLETS.

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          • #6
            i prefer the recoil of my .243 to that of my 30.06. pure, plain and simple.

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            • #7
              I constantly wonder this question, I just feel better and more secure with a bigger gun. The recoil doesn't bother me much because i'm confident enough I'll only need one bullet.

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              • #8
                I have never seen anywhere that "deer" calibers were written, required, commanded. I shoot the rifle I feel like shooting. When I hunt whitetails I see no reason togo big. I am comfortable with anything above a 22-250. It has nothing to do with fla trajectory or felt recoil. It mostly just happens to be the gun I felt like shooting that day.

                They are just as effective and deadly as the cannons some people prefer. So until I see some visible evidence that it is improper or unethical I will continue to shoot "varmit" calibers.

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                • #9
                  shane

                  Have you ever gutted a Mullie that’s been shot with a 22-250 55 grain soft point at 400 yards? The lung cavity is nothing but soup!


                  ken.mcloud said it best!

                  “So, I think that the superior killing power of larger rounds is largely in our heads.(likely testosterone induced) A flat-shooting round that you can accurately place will produce as many if not more "bang-flop" kills as a heavy caliber round.”

                  Bottom line
                  If you must be satisfied shooting mice with a 50 BMG or even 700 Nitro Express nock yourself out! LOL!


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                    shane

                    Why should I shoot a 300 Win Mag in competition when I can do better with a 308 at 1000 YARDS!

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                    • #11
                      Good question shane, it must be a macho thing in reverse.

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                      • #12
                        Shane, i'm with you, but i have never shot a deer with my .22-250. I guess i shouldn't knock it till i try it. If guys think i have a macho complex because i shoot deer with a .30 caliber rifle, it's ok, i don't care. The recoil only seldom bothers me at the range, never in the field. I'd rather not have one get away and wonder...If only i'd brought enough gun. And don't tell me about shot placement! I know where to place my bullet and am capable of doing so. To little or too much? Error on the side of gluttony, always.

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                        • #13
                          I've shot deer with everything from a 6mm X 284 Win (85 gr part. at 3400 fps) to a 350 Remington Magnum. They all do the job but as Elmer said with the big bore "you can eat right up to the bullet hole". I never feel recoil shooting game. It's only at the range that recoil is a factor. That said my current favorite is the 25-06.

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                          • #14
                            "YOU GUYS, CRACK ME UP "!

                            Had a hunter tell me that 6mm was too small and 243 was just right!

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                            • #15
                              I am not suggesting that I need a .30 cal to kill deer. This is what i was given, and have always used, with good results. Old habits die hard. As i get older and recoil sensitive, i will undoubtedly buy a smaller bore rifle for deer. The .22-250 will probably still be used on coyotes instead of deer, not that it's not capable. Though you guys have got me curious enough to try it.

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