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hey i'm thinking about buying a new rifle. a nice one. im willing to pay over 1000 dollars for it. i was wondering if i should b

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  • shane
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    Check out the Remington APR (African Plains Rifle) from their custom shop. It comes in plenty of calibers, is perfectly suited to places other than Africa, and has a beautiful laminate wood stock. It looks awesome, and will be stable for accuracy. And it's plenty expensive for you.

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  • Christian Emter
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    Synthetic. They are lighter and hold up better in rugged country... well if you don't want to scratch up your nice wood stock.

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  • MLH
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    Couldn't tell you if a M-70 is going to be as accurate as a Kimber. They claim it has MOA potential but I don't think there is a guarantee. I don't think Kimber has a guarantee, either. Depends on what you consider accurate, too.

    With pretty much any gun purchase, especially off the shelf, there will be some variation in accuracy. If you want known accuracy then you'll have to go with the guns that are built/sorted for their accuracy - Vanguard Sub-MOA, Sako, Cooper, etc. Savages are quite accurate because of the way they're put together. The Remington 700 is known for off the shelf accuracy, just no guarantees. My most accurate factory rifles were a Ruger and a Remington (which was tweaked a bit), followed closely by a Browning.

    For hunting I'll venture to say most of us are pretty happy with a gun that shoots 1.5" 100 yd groups, though 2.5" is good way out there (remember Clay's MOP discussions?). If we stumble onto a gun that shoots better we are delighted. Some of us fickle guys also handload and tweak the guns to wring out the best accuracy.

    I'd be happy with either gun. Kimber has been around long enough for there to be some history. The new M-70 has yet to prove itself but it has everything going for it. These are just my opinions. Be sure to hear out others. They might disagree.

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  • Del in KS
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    Reid,

    My Kimber shoots 1.25 inch groups with just about any bullet. While I have not owned the latest version of the mdl 70 I've owned plenty of the rest. They are good serviceable rifles. That said the Win IMS is a little more expensive than a mdl 8400 Kimber. The Kimber is very simular to a CRF mdl 70 in design just better fit, finish and trigger.

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  • Reid Jones
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    thanks MLH. i've been looking into the Kimber. but are Winchester rifles as accurate as a Kimber? which is a better gun?

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  • MLH
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    Just checking. Some people don't consider all the costs. Glad to see you have.

    People will run their eyes and fingers over a fine wood stock with lust in their eyes. As Beekeeper says, there is a feel and warmth to it. A wood stock develops its own character over the years. The dents and scratches tell stories.

    A synthetic stock doesn't draw you in. But a good synthetic has its place. A good one will handle most anything you throw at it in most any condition. It says this gun is a tool, and a fine one, and you can take pride in that.

    If this is a rifle that will become a legacy to pass onto your kid someday, then I'd say go with a wood. If it is purely a hunting machine that will see some abuse then a synthetic. For that money, I'd consider a Kimber, too. I'd also look at the new Winchester Model 70.

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  • Beekeeper
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    Custom rifle builder Kenny Jarret says, "Accuracy doesn't grow on a tree..." The comments above are true. It depends on what you like. Synthetic and stainless make a very good weather resistant combo. Laminated stocks do hold sway over "tupperware" style injection molded. I like wood on a gun, nothing like the feel and warmth of wood on a good rifle! But, I own hunting rifles wearing synthetic stocks and some in stainless also. If it is a nasty day or if I think conditions warrant the synthetic that is the way I go. On a pretty day, I'll take a wood stocked rifle in a minute.

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  • CPT BRAD
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    You know I'd still stick with my Remington 700 or Winchester MDL 70 I like the Laminant or the composite stock, like someone said stay away from the injection molded stocks they are cheap and not well fitted. I have a MDL 70 Coyote in a 25 WSSM That has a laminated stock and shoots great. Also some Ruger 77s also Lam/SS. I don't like the wood stocks because they seem to get dinged and scratched up easier.

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  • steve182
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    For that money. i'd buy a Kimber for sure. I like wood myself, but it is more affected by weather, swelling in wet weather could affect accuracy. Synthetic stocks are lighter and more stable.

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  • kolbster
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    i know most people will say a wood stock. but i really love a syn stock.

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  • KMB33
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    wood looks better but synthetic doesnt flex or crack as easy, so it would probably be more accurate, plus synth is lighter.

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  • shane
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    Get an E.R. Shaw custom with a laminated stock. More durable than solid wood, and just about as stable as synthetic. Looks nice too.

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  • jay
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    If you plan to go synthetic I recommend against the injected molded stocks and go with a composite fiber stock. The composites are much better all around: durability, balance, finish, etc..

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  • Reid Jones
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    MLH you don't have to worry about my money. i have a nice gun case. i don't have to worry about buying the ammo. i have a scope. scope rings aren't going to cost me much compared to the gun. im 14. all i have to do is buy the gun and the scope. and i already have the scope.

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  • Del in KS
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    Synthetic is durable but an eyesore so go with wood if you like your guns that look good. A grand will get you a nice Kimber like mine. You can see it in my photo file-just click my username and go to page 2 of the photo file. Click to enlarge for a better look at the wood. BTW if you plan to use a scope (who doesn't) make sure to get a quality scope and rings. Cheap rings can actually damage the finish on any scope. If you get blue steel and have it Cerakoted (like mine is) at Ultracoatingsinc it will be more rustproof than stainless steel and very pleasing to the eye. The scope is a Leupold VX III 3.5 X 10 with matte finish. You didn't mention caliber but if its for deer and simular sized game the 25-06 is an outstanding choice. A wood stocked gun will appreciate in value while synthetics rarely do according to Dave?.

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