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  • #16
    Originally posted by dewman View Post
    Milldawg : It looks like the pic rail is the same as the Ruger American rimfire. They are available all over.
    Noted on the scope
    Really hmm? What I found was the bolt pattern was the same as the Remington 541. But then again I’m not best at the google machine. And your not that far if you are in the Boot Hill of Missouri. I can be in caruthersville in less that 90 minutes traffic depending. I was just up there last Friday night and lighten the casinos check book by about 14,000 dollars.

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    • #17
      I'm about an hour +/- north and west of caruthersville. Nice casino hall, clean them out boy. 👍🏻
      Here is where they talk about Howas on rimfirecentral. I will caution you about this forum. Lots of bitchin. If you take every dumba** comment as gospel nobody would buy any damn 22. 😉 But there are good tips and techniques as well. I'm dewman708 by the way. Click image for larger version

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      • #18
        [QUOTE=Milldawg... I’m thinking about a diamond back tactical with side focus. [/QUOTE]

        The Diamondback is a great scope for the price but it is a centerfire rifle scope that is parallax zeroed for 100 yards. This doesn't work well on shorter range .22LR shooting because the point of aim is not actually where it appears to be much of the time(e.g. when you are shooting 25-75 yards) . The parallax control on the side is required to adjust parallax at magnifications beyond 12X. Such high magnification is actually a hindrance to most .22LR shooting because it reduces the field of view too much to get on target quickly at the shorter ranges that the .22LR is commonly used. A magnification larger than 14X is seldom required for .22LR ranges and having to adjust the parallax control each time you change shooting distance is a bit of a pain. I use the 3-7X Crossfire .22LR scope and I"m very happy with it. I might consider a higher magnification scope for competitive .22LR shooting but prefer a peep sight for that due to the short range. If you are shooting gophers, squirrels, etc. the 3-7X lets you shoot them in the head inside of 100 yards.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by DakotaMan View Post

          The Diamondback is a great scope for the price but it is a centerfire rifle scope that is parallax zeroed for 100 yards. This doesn't work well on shorter range .22LR shooting because the point of aim is not actually where it appears to be much of the time(e.g. when you are shooting 25-75 yards) . The parallax control on the side is required to adjust parallax at magnifications beyond 12X. Such high magnification is actually a hindrance to most .22LR shooting because it reduces the field of view too much to get on target quickly at the shorter ranges that the .22LR is commonly used. A magnification larger than 14X is seldom required for .22LR ranges and having to adjust the parallax control each time you change shooting distance is a bit of a pain. I use the 3-7X Crossfire .22LR scope and I"m very happy with it. I might consider a higher magnification scope for competitive .22LR shooting but prefer a peep sight for that due to the short range. If you are shooting gophers, squirrels, etc. the 3-7X lets you shoot them in the head inside of 100 yards.
          The leupold Rimfire 3-9x40 has caught my eye. Since I was informed I was a scope snob the other day at work. Because I don’t buy center point at Walmart. Laughed all the way home.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Milldawg View Post
            The leupold Rimfire 3-9x40 has caught my eye. Since I was informed I was a scope snob the other day at work. Because I don’t buy center point at Walmart. Laughed all the way home.
            There is a difference between being a snob and understanding "you get what you pay for".

            A "snob" would be looking for a Zeiss! LOL!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Milldawg View Post
              The leupold Rimfire 3-9x40 has caught my eye. Since I was informed I was a scope snob the other day at work. Because I don’t buy center point at Walmart. Laughed all the way home.
              It pays to be a snob. I would not use a rifle that is not accurate and you need a precision scope to get that accuracy. I suspect the Leupold RImfire will be a good scope but haven't tried it. I know the Crossfire rimfire works. You will be glad you went with the rimfire version for sure. Have fun with it as I expect that new rifle can SHOOT.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by FirstBubba View Post

                There is a difference between being a snob and understanding "you get what you pay for".

                A "snob" would be looking for a Zeiss! LOL!
                Tried to explain that but it was to no avail. Same guy who thinks he can hit a deer at 600 yards when he shots his rifle once a year. So I don’t waste much time.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DakotaMan View Post

                  It pays to be a snob. I would not use a rifle that is not accurate and you need a precision scope to get that accuracy. I suspect the Leupold RImfire will be a good scope but haven't tried it. I know the Crossfire rimfire works. You will be glad you went with the rimfire version for sure. Have fun with it as I expect that new rifle can SHOOT.
                  From what I can find checking online I can put my hands on a leupold I haven’t found the vortex rimfire locally to actually look thru one. If I can do a side by side I will but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. And I figure I bought a fairly decent rifle it might as had decent glass on it.

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                  • #24
                    Anyone have any suggestions for a muzzle break or am I wasting my time I may put a vortex flash hider on it just for giggles.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Milldawg View Post
                      Anyone have any suggestions for a muzzle break or am I wasting my time I may put a vortex flash hider on it just for giggles.
                      IMHO, muzzle brake puts to much muzzle blast back at the shooter. The flash hider will do the same, just to a much lesser degree.
                      I think I'd go flash hider.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Milldawg View Post
                        Anyone have any suggestions for a muzzle break or am I wasting my time I may put a vortex flash hider on it just for giggles.
                        It is widely known and accepted (look everywhere reputable online) that muzzle breaks do zero for a 22 rifle, flash hiders the same. (What flash?) I can vouch for the vortex diamondback rimfire. Believe it as good as Leupolds rimfire version with at least as good if not better warranty. And remember, I'm a Leupold fanboy.
                        FWIW putting a Leupold rimfire on your 22 doesn't make you a snob, it makes you frugal and deadly. Put a custom Nightforce or a Huskemaw on your model 60 might do it.

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                        • #27
                          Also would mention an adjustable objective will let you set you parallax to 25 or 50 yds. Squirrels are almost in!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by dewman View Post
                            Also would mention an adjustable objective will let you set you parallax to 25 or 50 yds. Squirrels are almost in!
                            Very true.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by dewman View Post
                              It is widely known and accepted (look everywhere reputable online) that muzzle breaks do zero for a 22 rifle, flash hiders the same. (What flash?) I can vouch for the vortex diamondback rimfire. Believe it as good as Leupolds rimfire version with at least as good if not better warranty. And remember, I'm a Leupold fanboy.
                              FWIW putting a Leupold rimfire on your 22 doesn't make you a snob, it makes you frugal and deadly. Put a custom Nightforce or a Huskemaw on your model 60 might do it.
                              One of the model 60 is going to the scope off the howa after the said upgrade. Have to go pick up the wife’s new wedding ring this evening. Told her when we got married I would buy her a nicer bigger one at 20 years well we’ve made 17 years and she’s been working 7 days a week for our retirement for the last year and a half so I thought what the hell. Anyways bass pro is on the way home.

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                              • #30
                                Aw, that's sweet. Been trying for 33 yrs to give the wife a bigger diamond in her ring but she refuses. She says she wants "her" diamond. The one I stood at an alter and spoke vows to her and God on. Women 🤦🏻‍♂️
                                However, that doesn't mean she'll turn down a new car, should I offer.😉

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