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Difference in Colt .45 and Long Colt .45

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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
    There is no such thing as a Long Colt. From what I have read it came about because there is/was a .45 short colt, thus the differentiation. Guns and ammo will be labeled .45Colt if labeled correctly. A .45ACP always has the ACP included to indicate it is for the .45 automatic(semi) pistol like the 1911.
    .380 ACP was designed by John Moses Browning, and, though it goes by different names and nomenclatures, is an APC round.

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  • FirstBubba
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
    There is no such thing as a Long Colt. From what I have read it came about because there is/was a .45 short colt, thus the differentiation. Guns and ammo will be labeled .45Colt if labeled correctly. A .45ACP always has the ACP included to indicate it is for the .45 automatic(semi) pistol like the 1911.
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    The .380 isn't an ACP round. It will be cataloged as the .380 Auto or 9mm Kurtz (short).

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  • DanielM
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    The .45 Colt cartridge became known as the .45 Colt (long), and later the .45 Long Colt to differentiate it from the .45 service cartridge adopted by the US in 1874.

    What happened was that the US had adopted both the .45 Colt Pistol (which we now know as the Single Action Army Revolver), as well as deciding to buy the Smith & Wesson Schofield. The S&W had a shorter cylinder than the Colt, so in August 1874 a cartridge which could be used interchangeably in both was adopted, with a case 1.1” long, rather than the standard .45 Colt round, which had a case 1.26” long. The first version was in a copper case, inside primed. It was replaced by a solid-head Boxer primed version, in the same shorter length, eight years later (Model 1882 Ball Cartridge for Cal .45 Revolver). As a result, it became common, informally at first, to refer to the Colt cartridge as the long one, or .45 Colt (long), to save getting it mixed up with the shorter service cartridge (and, potentially, sending soldiers ammunition they couldn't use).

    FWIW there was also another .45 round and a Colt revolver made for it, before the .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. In 1909, as a stopgap while testing of new self-loading pistols was going on, the Colt 1909 Model revolver entered US Army service. It was a New Service model, double-action and chambered for the new Cal. 45 Ball, Model of 1909 cartridge. This was on a case 1.285” long, and after the first 90,000 rounds were loaded, made with a larger diameter rim to prevent it being used in older revolvers. The 1909 round only enjoyed a short service life though, the last production order being in April 1915.

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  • Treestand
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
    There is no such thing as a Long Colt. From what I have read it came about because there is/was a .45 short colt, thus the differentiation. Guns and ammo will be labeled .45Colt if labeled correctly. A .45ACP always has the ACP included to indicate it is for the .45 automatic(semi) pistol like the 1911.
    ACP stands for Automatic Colt Pistol..like 32acp,380acp,45acp.

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  • JohnMN
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    Jimbo and milldawg are right. The most correct designation for the revolver cartridge is .45 colt. It's referred to as a "long colt" to distinguish it from the .45 schofield and the later .45 ACP.

    I guess you could put it this way... If you hear "colt 45" in a country song, it means the 1873 colt single action army, or the .45 long colt cartridge. If you hear it in a rap song, it means a 1911, a .45 ACP, or the malt liquor!!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Colt

    Did you mean to ask about performance differences between .45 (long) colt and .45 ACP?

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  • jhjimbo
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    There is no such thing as a Long Colt. From what I have read it came about because there is/was a .45 short colt, thus the differentiation. Guns and ammo will be labeled .45Colt if labeled correctly. A .45ACP always has the ACP included to indicate it is for the .45 automatic(semi) pistol like the 1911.

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  • Milldawg
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    Those are the same round as far I know the big difference is 45 ACP. But there will be someone else that's has way more experience that will answer. And most times it's written 45 LC or 45 long colt

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