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    On Tuesday, New Jersey Democrat Senator Frank Lautenberg reintroduced the legislation he has been pushing since the shooting of former Arizona Republican Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2010, that he calls the “Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act.” It is sad that the number one agenda for most Democrats in Washington is to ban guns, and large capacity magazines, while this country's economy is going to hell. Does anybody know when most of the Democrats in Washington will get back to correcting the problems in this country and stop their madness? Why is it always a Democrat who writing gun bans in the Statehouse or in Congress?

  • #2
    Because most Democrats are so smart that they think they know way more about what you need than you do. Savvy?


    • #3
      I suppose you folks don't want to be reminded of St. Regan who wrote to Congress in 1994, urging them to “listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of [military-style assault] weapons.”
      Former Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney who in fact signed into law an assault weapons ban in Massachusetts in 2004 saying at the signing ceremony "sole purpose" of assault weapons is "hunting down and killing people."
      NJ Governor Christie strongly supported the assault weapons ban enacted during the Clinton administration.

      Need I go on?


      • #4
        I think that he said most and not all. I didn't see one Democrat at the Senate hearing the other day that spoke up against the firerms ban. They had that parrot police chief from Montgomery county ,Md who was guilible enough to be led into whatever answer they wanted him to say. They would tell him what to say and then he would talk but he wouldn't answer alot of the questions he would just keep going back to a background check. The State of Md is about Communist as you can get when it comes to firearms anyway. The one Democrat Senator should have been slapped for harrassing the young lady about what gun she should have to protect her young children in her home. He got downright rude to her. The Senate hearing was a clear cut example of party line politics. As far as Christie he ki##ed Obama's rear at the press conference on the hurricane and talked about the good job Obama was doing about the emergency and the response times for help was deplorable and alot of the people still don't have what they need. It was as bad as Katrina, same old FEMA. Everytime he gets in front of the camera he has something cute to say. We had a name for people like Christie when I was growing up . It was a smart a##.


        • #5
          Thats what happens when you have so many people hooked on government entitlements. In these peoples minds, as long as they continue to get their free lunch, they will continue to support the president even if they disagree with the direction the president is taking. Not many people are willing to trade free money for their principles.


          • #6
            The only way a conservative will get elected again is if during the campaign they have something free to give to the 47% that have their hand out.
            If the conservatives lose the House in 2014, it's lights out and the republic as we know it will go down the tube.


            • #7
              The democrat party changed once it let the progressives/liberals control it. Of course they're only progressive and liberal on the concepts that they want such as social issues but are very restrictive when it comes to freedoms that don't fit into their agenda.

              Thats why they call any conservative African American an "Uncle Tom" and a sellout.

              Thats why they want to silence anyone speaking out against them.

              Thats why they want to ban guns. For ultimate control of the general American.

              Move to Texas if you love freedom.


              • #8
                Its the old magicians trick of mis-direction. Its a political distraction. While your were watching gun control, they created immigration reform. And watch that one go right through. Never let a crisis go to waste. Their corruption knows no limits. And we keep voting them back in. That is what amazes me.


                • #9
                  Hoski really? The talking points are old! Well "Reagan raised taxes", yeh after he cut them by a much larger amount. Simple math show a cut of 40% and a increase of 30% is still a 10% cut. SO TRY AGAIN!

                  The difference between Romney and Obama on gun control is clearly stated in the debate on Oct 16 2012"

                  QUESTION: President Obama, during the Democratic National Convention in 2008, you stated you wanted to keep AK-47s out of the hands of criminals. What has your administration done or planned to do to limit the availability of assault weapons?

                  OBAMA: We're a nation that believes in the Second Amendment, and I believe in the Second Amendment. We've got a long tradition of hunting and sportsmen and people who want to make sure they can protect themselves.

                  But there have been too many instances during the course of my presidency, where I've had to comfort families who have lost somebody. Most recently out in Aurora. You know, just a couple of weeks ago, actually, probably about a month, I saw a mother, who I had met at the bedside of her son, who had been shot in that theater.

                  And her son had been shot through the head. And we spent some time, and we said a prayer and, remarkably, about two months later, this young man and his mom showed up, and he looked unbelievable, good as new.

                  But there were a lot of families who didn't have that good fortune and whose sons or daughters or husbands didn't survive.

                  So my belief is that, (A), we have to enforce the laws we've already got, make sure that we're keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We've done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we've got more to do when it comes to enforcement.

                  But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don't belong on our streets. And so what I'm trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there's an awful lot of violence and they're not using AK-47s. They're using cheap hand guns.

                  And so what can we do to intervene, to make sure that young people have opportunity; that our schools are working; that if there's violence on the streets, that working with faith groups and law enforcement, we can catch it before it gets out of control.

                  And so what I want is a -- is a comprehensive strategy. Part of it is seeing if we can get automatic weapons that kill folks in amazing numbers out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill. But part of it is also going deeper and seeing if we can get into these communities and making sure we catch violent impulses before they occur.

                  CROWLEY: Governor Romney, the question is about assault weapons, AK-47s.

                  ROMNEY: Yeah, I'm not in favor of new pieces of legislation on -- on guns and taking guns away or making certain guns illegal. We of course don't want to have automatic weapons, and that's already illegal in this country to have automatic weapons. What I believe is we have to do as the president mentioned towards the end of his remarks there, which is to make enormous efforts to enforce the gun laws that we have and to change the culture of violence we have. And you ask how are we going to do that? And there are a number of things.

                  He mentioned good schools. I totally agree. We were able to drive our schools to be number one in the nation in my state, and I believe if we do a better job in education, we'll, we'll give people the hope and opportunity they deserve, and perhaps less violence from that.

                  But let me mention another thing, and that is parents. We need moms and dads helping raise kids. Wherever possible, the - the benefit of having two parents in the home, and that's not always possible. A lot of great single moms, single dads. But gosh, to tell our kids that before they have babies, they ought to think about getting married to someone - that's a great idea because if there's a two-parent family, the prospect of living in poverty goes down dramatically. The opportunities that the child will, will be able to achieve increase dramatically.

                  So we can make changes in the way our culture works to help bring people away from violence and give them opportunity and bring them in the American system.

                  The, one of the greatest failure we've had with regards to gun violence, in some respects, is what is known as Fast and Furious, which was a program under this administration - and how it worked exactly, I think we don't know precisely - but where thousands of automatic and AK-47-type weapons were, were given to people that ultimately gave them to drug lords. They used those weapons against - against their own citizens and killed Americans with them.

                  And this was a, this was a program of the government. For what purpose it was put in place, I can't imagine. But it's one of the great tragedies related to violence in our society which has occurred during this administration which I think the American people would like to understand fully. It's been investigated to a degree, but the administration has, has carried out executive privilege to prevent all the information from coming out. I'd like to understand who it was that did this, what the idea was behind it, why it led to the violence - thousands of guns going to Mexican drug lords.

                  OBAMA: Candy.

                  CROWLEY: Governor, Governor, if I could, the question was about these assault weapons that once were banned and are no longer banned. I know that you signed an assault weapons ban when you were in Massachusetts. Obviously with this question, you no longer do support that. Why is that? Given the kind of violence that we see sometimes with these mass killings, why is it that you've changed your mind?

                  ROMNEY: Well, Candy, actually, in my state, the pro-gun folks and the anti-gun folks came together and put together a piece of legislation, and it's referred to as a, as an assault weapon ban, but it had at the signing of the bill both the pro-gun and the anti- gun people came together, because it provided opportunities for both that both wanted. There were hunting opportunities, for instance, that hadn't previously been available and so forth, so it was a mutually agreed upon piece of legislation.

                  That's what we need more of, Candy. What we have right now in Washington is a place that's, that's gridlocked. We haven't had -

                  CROWLEY: So if I could, if you could get people to agree to it, you'd be for it.

                  ROMNEY: We haven't had - we haven't had - we haven't had the leadership in Washington to work on a bipartisan basis. I was able to do that in my state and bring these two together.

                  OBAMA: Candy.

                  CROWLEY: Quickly, Mr. President.

                  OBAMA: The - first of all, I think Governor Romney was for an assault weapons ban before he was against it. And he said that the reason he changed his mind was in part because he was seeking the endorsement of the National Rifle Association.

                  So that's on the record. But I think that one area we agree on is the importance of parents and the importance of schools, because I do believe that if our young people have opportunity, then they're less likely to engage in these kind of violent acts.

                  We're not going to eliminate everybody who is mentally disturbed, and we've got to make sure they don't get weapons. But we can make a difference in terms ensuring that every young person in America, regardless of where they come from, what they look like, have a chance to succeed.

                  And, Candy, we haven't had a chance to talk about education much, but I think it is very important to understand that the reforms we've put in place, working with 46 governors around the country, are seeing schools that are some of the ones that are the toughest for kids starting to succeed. We're starting to see gains in math and science.

                  When it comes to community colleges, we are setting up programs, including with Nassau Community College, to retrain workers, including young people who may have dropped out of school but now are getting another chance, training them for the jobs that exist right now.

                  And in fact, employers are looking for skilled workers. And so we're matching them up. Giving them access to higher education. As I said, we have made sure that millions of young people are able to get an education that they weren't able to get before.


                  CROWLEY: Mr. President, I have to -- I have to move you along here. You said you wanted to...


                  CROWLEY: We need to do it here.

                  OBAMA: But -- but it'll -- it'll -- it'll be...


                  OBAMA: ... just one second. CROWLEY: One...

                  OBAMA: Because -- because this is important. This is part of the choice in this election.

                  When Governor Romney was asked whether teachers, hiring more teachers was important to growing our economy, Governor Romney said that doesn't grow our economy.

                  When -- when he was asked would class size...


                  CROWLEY: The question, Mr. President, was guns here, so I need to move us along.

                  OBAMA: I understand.

                  CROWLEY: You know, the question was guns. So let me -- let me bring in another...

                  OBAMA: But this will make a difference in terms of whether or not we can move this economy forward for these young people...

                  CROWLEY: I understand.

                  OBAMA: ... and reduce our violence.

                  CROWLEY: OK. Thank you so much.

                  Before you go into the flipflopper mode remember Obama was against gay marriage before being for it among countless I mean countless other things he "Evolved" on! Your laughable!

                  You and I never agree politically but we can come together on some things and we have ask Ncarl who was suprised! I have a personal question for you that you do not have to answer. Are you a union leader/laborer? This isnt to judge you I dont have any problem with union workers my father is one and one of my bestfriends is the local postal union rep. I'm just curious.


                  • #10
                    Simple answer Gary,

                    To distract.

                    Now make your assumptions!


                    • #11
                      No need to argue numbers, I'll readily grant there are many more democrats that support some gun control than there are republicans...but as I pointed out, there are some repubs who favor control too. That and the NRA has a grading system where anyone can quickly check their Congressman's 2nd support grade...there are some democrats who make the cut.


                      • #12
                        Hoski, I think you missed the point of my post. Romney clearly said he doesn't want any new gun laws and Obamasaid exactly the opposite of Romney. What he did as Govenor was a state issue not a federal issue. The same as his healthcare and Obama's the difference there is Obama's is a federal while deemed constitutional after Justice Roberts changed the argument in reality is not based off of all of their past statement. While Romneys was a state issue, and didn't have the support to be brought before the courts.




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