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With just about every home built survival kit that I have read about, people always recommend waterproof matches. In the same am

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  • a.rank
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    sparking rod. starts more fires than either.

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  • bamaoutdoorsman93
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    It depends on how good you are with matches. I take waterproof matches, a cheap 30 cent lighter, and a zippo with an extra bottle of fluid.

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  • bamaoutdoorsman93
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    It depends on how good you are with matches. I take waterproof matches, a cheap 30 cent lighter, and a zippo with an extra bottle of fluid.

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  • Kevin Paproski
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    Even if it can start fires faster a lighter can run out of fuel. NEVER get waterproof matches,I use strike anywhere matches in a waterproof case. Always bring a back up firestarter which would be ethier a striker or a fire piston.

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  • LaughingVulcan
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    Having both are fine. Put both in a soap dish. I have never had a pristine Bic lighter that I couldn't get to light in short order. That includes heavy rain and wind.

    But the real trick is getting to Carnegie Hall. That is, whatever method you pick.... Practice with it. Again. And again. Until you're sick and tired of it. That's the way to be able to use it properly when you are sick and tired.

    And if you choose a Bic lighter - test it reasonably regularly (at least quarterly, not more than monthly) to make sure it still has fuel, the action is still smooth, etc. But the only time you use your 'survival' Bic is when testing or in an actual survival situation, period.

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  • 270WSM
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    I think a waterproof lighter or acaped liter

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  • james woods
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    i think the reasoning behind that is that lighters don't work when they are wet .but if you take the same precations with your lighter as you would your matches you should be in good shape. however with the proper tinder a fire steel will out last both even when wet and won't malfunction.

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  • peter
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    waterproof matches can handel more damage and still work

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  • Jeff Bowers
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    In one of our "Reader's Digest Condensed" survival courses, the instructor gave us a "Let's say you're in a plane crash and your Bic lighter is ripped in half." story, showing us how it was still a great spark generator. I keep many around.

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  • hengst
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    Just dont let it get cold or to wet, then you are in a bad place if you need fire and only have a bic. I take a 4"X4" piece of gauze (bandage material) and rub vaseline on it until it penetrates then light it with a blastmatch. http://www.ultimatesurvival.com/product_view.cfm?product_ID=436
    works all the time. I had the "pleasure"' of spending an extra unplanned and unwanted 30 hrs in the Rockies once, everything was wet and it started snowing I will never leave home without a blastmatch in my ruck.

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  • libertyfirst
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    I've never had any problems with my water proof matches and Vaseline strips, but I've had a few occasions where I couldn't get the plastic butane lighters to do anything. I do think that I'll look into the flint and steel and the stuff that COONER talks about.

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  • Reid Jones
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    if clay cooper chimes in, he'll tell you a trick with vaseline and a rag.

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  • Timmerland
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    To save space in my survival kit. I use an old boy scout trick. I took a book of matches and dipped the ends of the matches into melted wax. That will water-proof them to a point. But the best thing to have in there is a flint and steel with some cotton balls.

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  • Elmer Fudd
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    if you can fit in some cotton balls soaked in parafin, or a little bottle of kerosene or lamp oil [the bottles that brake fluid come in work].... you can get wet wood going

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  • Hunter Savage
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    along with a flint and steel and a bic. i carry two small (PLASTIC) jars one filled with potassium permanganate and one with glycerin a small amount of potassium permanganate and a few drops glycerin on top of it wait a few seconds and poof fire no striking needed . but be careful with the potassium permanganate it is an oxidizer and and can burn skin or eyes . both can be bought online

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